1 00:00:06,130 --> 00:00:21,349 [Music] 2 00:00:21,359 --> 00:00:39,040 do 3 00:00:39,050 --> 00:00:58,709 [Music] 4 00:01:02,549 --> 00:01:00,869 what's happening ladies and gentlemen oh 5 00:01:04,630 --> 00:01:02,559 man we got to work on that editing over 6 00:01:06,469 --> 00:01:04,640 there i tell you what the cutoff is hard 7 00:01:08,390 --> 00:01:06,479 i'm sure if you're listening it's a hard 8 00:01:09,830 --> 00:01:08,400 cut i'd like to thank each and every one 9 00:01:12,390 --> 00:01:09,840 of you for pulling into the garage 10 00:01:13,990 --> 00:01:12,400 tonight hopping in the van and seeing 11 00:01:15,109 --> 00:01:14,000 where we go as you all know we'll be 12 00:01:17,990 --> 00:01:15,119 sending our 13 00:01:20,469 --> 00:01:18,000 radio waves here out into the ever 14 00:01:22,870 --> 00:01:20,479 expanding cosmos as we've been told so 15 00:01:24,149 --> 00:01:22,880 depending on where you're at here or at 16 00:01:26,230 --> 00:01:24,159 another time perhaps you're listening to 17 00:01:27,670 --> 00:01:26,240 this in the future we welcome you thank 18 00:01:29,030 --> 00:01:27,680 you for coming hanging out with us 19 00:01:31,109 --> 00:01:29,040 tonight 20 00:01:32,469 --> 00:01:31,119 so let's get going here i'd like to 21 00:01:34,310 --> 00:01:32,479 first of all welcome those that are in 22 00:01:36,630 --> 00:01:34,320 the chat it looks like we have the 23 00:01:38,310 --> 00:01:36,640 legendary chad smith 24 00:01:41,109 --> 00:01:38,320 the man's everywhere we know ladies and 25 00:01:42,710 --> 00:01:41,119 gentlemen we got 509 to find pines 26 00:01:44,149 --> 00:01:42,720 t-wise thank you very much for coming 27 00:01:45,590 --> 00:01:44,159 and hanging out tonight 28 00:01:49,030 --> 00:01:45,600 uh oh man i feel like i'm gonna bring 29 00:01:51,910 --> 00:01:49,040 your name is it jme patton jme patton 30 00:01:54,550 --> 00:01:51,920 thank you and they say party party party 31 00:01:56,630 --> 00:01:54,560 party party man you're ready to party 32 00:01:57,990 --> 00:01:56,640 hard already for this this evening here 33 00:01:59,429 --> 00:01:58,000 i'll tell you what 34 00:02:00,789 --> 00:01:59,439 and looks like we also got the ufo 35 00:02:02,950 --> 00:02:00,799 garage in here that'd be named and 36 00:02:03,990 --> 00:02:02,960 christina bell welcome thank you for 37 00:02:06,069 --> 00:02:04,000 coming in 38 00:02:08,790 --> 00:02:06,079 as you guys know we will be hanging out 39 00:02:10,309 --> 00:02:08,800 hey we got the michigan ufo 40 00:02:11,990 --> 00:02:10,319 uh settings and paranormal encounters 41 00:02:13,830 --> 00:02:12,000 that's wayne and his wife michelle over 42 00:02:15,110 --> 00:02:13,840 there in their podcast you guys go check 43 00:02:16,550 --> 00:02:15,120 them out they're in here hanging out 44 00:02:18,710 --> 00:02:16,560 with us tonight and they're ready to go 45 00:02:21,750 --> 00:02:18,720 we got smoking joe 46 00:02:23,750 --> 00:02:21,760 he is chad smith chad smith seems to be 47 00:02:27,030 --> 00:02:23,760 everywhere i'd also like to say a very 48 00:02:28,390 --> 00:02:27,040 big welcome to joe snow man i've never 49 00:02:31,589 --> 00:02:28,400 said your last name and i realized i had 50 00:02:33,830 --> 00:02:31,599 to say it is it stralesky bro i know i 51 00:02:35,670 --> 00:02:33,840 murdered that sup foo tell you what 52 00:02:37,110 --> 00:02:35,680 brother it's your birthday so happy 53 00:02:38,710 --> 00:02:37,120 happy birthday i'll tell you that right 54 00:02:40,470 --> 00:02:38,720 now i want to say i want to thank you 55 00:02:42,790 --> 00:02:40,480 for hopping here on your birthday 56 00:02:45,990 --> 00:02:42,800 congratulations for 57 00:02:47,030 --> 00:02:46,000 another year around this this uh the sun 58 00:02:50,070 --> 00:02:47,040 here 59 00:02:52,150 --> 00:02:50,080 so guys with me as i've mentioned uh for 60 00:02:55,670 --> 00:02:52,160 the last week or so 61 00:02:57,830 --> 00:02:55,680 uh i have jess rogue with the rogue 62 00:02:59,190 --> 00:02:57,840 report from fringe fm 63 00:03:00,149 --> 00:02:59,200 so let's talk about her for just a 64 00:03:02,550 --> 00:03:00,159 second and give you guys a little bit of 65 00:03:04,309 --> 00:03:02,560 a little bit of a a 66 00:03:05,350 --> 00:03:04,319 small glimpse into who and what she is 67 00:03:06,790 --> 00:03:05,360 which is always so hard to do when 68 00:03:08,470 --> 00:03:06,800 people mention a bio i'm like how do you 69 00:03:10,710 --> 00:03:08,480 how do you encapsulate 70 00:03:12,390 --> 00:03:10,720 the total sum of somebody in a few small 71 00:03:14,630 --> 00:03:12,400 words but we're gonna give it our best 72 00:03:16,790 --> 00:03:14,640 shot here uh throughout her life jess 73 00:03:18,790 --> 00:03:16,800 has been researching fringe topics and 74 00:03:21,350 --> 00:03:18,800 even questioning the nature of reality 75 00:03:24,309 --> 00:03:21,360 itself from a young age she developed a 76 00:03:26,390 --> 00:03:24,319 fascinating fascination with the fringe 77 00:03:29,830 --> 00:03:26,400 which is a teen expanded into the world 78 00:03:31,509 --> 00:03:29,840 of conspiracies her undying drive to 79 00:03:33,509 --> 00:03:31,519 learn and no more combined with her 80 00:03:37,110 --> 00:03:33,519 desire to share information with others 81 00:03:39,830 --> 00:03:37,120 led to her purse her to pursue a degree 82 00:03:41,910 --> 00:03:39,840 in broadcast journalism and television 83 00:03:44,789 --> 00:03:41,920 while she decided against pursuing a 84 00:03:46,149 --> 00:03:44,799 career in the mainstream news jess was 85 00:03:48,630 --> 00:03:46,159 able to take this knowledge and 86 00:03:51,190 --> 00:03:48,640 experience to redirect it to the topics 87 00:03:52,789 --> 00:03:51,200 she finds most important 88 00:03:55,110 --> 00:03:52,799 she has dedicated the majority of her 89 00:03:57,270 --> 00:03:55,120 life to researching the hidden facts 90 00:03:59,589 --> 00:03:57,280 behind alternative topics allowing her 91 00:04:01,030 --> 00:03:59,599 to stay on top of the latest news and 92 00:04:03,350 --> 00:04:01,040 crucial topics 93 00:04:04,309 --> 00:04:03,360 in the fringe community so ladies and 94 00:04:06,070 --> 00:04:04,319 gentlemen 95 00:04:07,190 --> 00:04:06,080 i'm excited to bring her in and kind of 96 00:04:08,390 --> 00:04:07,200 talk about some of this you know she's 97 00:04:09,589 --> 00:04:08,400 got some different topics she mentions 98 00:04:11,750 --> 00:04:09,599 here she says i'm fascinated by a 99 00:04:13,270 --> 00:04:11,760 variety of topics ranging from but not 100 00:04:15,830 --> 00:04:13,280 limited to i always love to say not 101 00:04:18,629 --> 00:04:15,840 limited to conspiracy theories research 102 00:04:21,990 --> 00:04:18,639 consciousness remote viewing history 103 00:04:24,550 --> 00:04:22,000 timelessness psychological operations 104 00:04:26,230 --> 00:04:24,560 simulation theory spies we don't get 105 00:04:28,390 --> 00:04:26,240 that one on their lab but heck yeah 106 00:04:29,670 --> 00:04:28,400 spies intelligence artificial 107 00:04:33,030 --> 00:04:29,680 intelligence 108 00:04:34,230 --> 00:04:33,040 oh crap geopolitics technology defense 109 00:04:36,629 --> 00:04:34,240 and history 110 00:04:38,469 --> 00:04:36,639 so i'd say we got quite a bit to talk 111 00:04:39,590 --> 00:04:38,479 about and get her perspective on things 112 00:04:41,830 --> 00:04:39,600 tonight also i just want to mention 113 00:04:44,390 --> 00:04:41,840 really quick you can check her out at 114 00:04:45,670 --> 00:04:44,400 the fringe fm i'm gonna bring her in to 115 00:04:47,430 --> 00:04:45,680 talk about the actual days you can catch 116 00:04:48,710 --> 00:04:47,440 on exactly but i do have a link to all 117 00:04:50,629 --> 00:04:48,720 of this in the description so if you're 118 00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:50,639 watching this back lately or you know 119 00:04:54,629 --> 00:04:52,720 currently you will scroll down there 120 00:04:56,070 --> 00:04:54,639 there'll be links to both her website as 121 00:04:57,430 --> 00:04:56,080 well as the fringe fm and i believe i 122 00:04:58,710 --> 00:04:57,440 might even throw up her youtube channels 123 00:05:00,790 --> 00:04:58,720 on there as well 124 00:05:02,870 --> 00:05:00,800 also guys keep an eye out next weekend i 125 00:05:05,270 --> 00:05:02,880 will have the one and only christina 126 00:05:06,950 --> 00:05:05,280 gomez so come hang out for that episode 127 00:05:08,390 --> 00:05:06,960 i'm excited to bring her in as you all 128 00:05:10,230 --> 00:05:08,400 know about her 129 00:05:12,629 --> 00:05:10,240 and one last thing i'd like to mention 130 00:05:15,110 --> 00:05:12,639 before i bring in the incredible jess 131 00:05:17,670 --> 00:05:15,120 rogie here and that is 132 00:05:19,830 --> 00:05:17,680 manscaped guys let's at least talk about 133 00:05:22,790 --> 00:05:19,840 it for two seconds manscaped look at 134 00:05:24,629 --> 00:05:22,800 this guys cleared for takeoff are you 135 00:05:25,909 --> 00:05:24,639 kidding me your balls will thank you is 136 00:05:27,270 --> 00:05:25,919 what it says 137 00:05:28,469 --> 00:05:27,280 ben i gotta tell you this looks great i 138 00:05:31,110 --> 00:05:28,479 think it's gonna be it's gonna be great 139 00:05:33,990 --> 00:05:31,120 and for those that are wondering it is 140 00:05:35,749 --> 00:05:34,000 uh ufo garage all capitalized that is 141 00:05:36,790 --> 00:05:35,759 the promo code 142 00:05:39,749 --> 00:05:36,800 for 143 00:05:41,270 --> 00:05:39,759 um manscaped so i think that's about it 144 00:05:44,070 --> 00:05:41,280 i'll throw it up on the bottom here and 145 00:05:45,590 --> 00:05:44,080 without anything else to add you guys 146 00:05:46,950 --> 00:05:45,600 don't forget 147 00:05:49,830 --> 00:05:46,960 take care of those family jewels all 148 00:05:51,189 --> 00:05:49,840 right let's bring out jess rogue and i 149 00:05:52,469 --> 00:05:51,199 gotta say guys 150 00:05:53,909 --> 00:05:52,479 i mean this may or may not be true i'll 151 00:05:55,189 --> 00:05:53,919 let you guys decide i've been taking 152 00:05:56,230 --> 00:05:55,199 voice lessons from her because if you 153 00:05:58,629 --> 00:05:56,240 guys want someone who actually has a 154 00:05:59,749 --> 00:05:58,639 radio voice that's jess rogue i'll tell 155 00:06:01,830 --> 00:05:59,759 you what a rogue i don't know why i 156 00:06:04,390 --> 00:06:01,840 suggest rogue maybe she is rogue let's 157 00:06:06,629 --> 00:06:04,400 see what happens tonight jess welcome to 158 00:06:08,230 --> 00:06:06,639 the show what's shaking 159 00:06:10,309 --> 00:06:08,240 what's up thank you for having me and 160 00:06:12,870 --> 00:06:10,319 thank you for the wonderful intro i 161 00:06:14,250 --> 00:06:12,880 don't know how i can follow a ball 162 00:06:16,230 --> 00:06:14,260 shaving commercial 163 00:06:17,749 --> 00:06:16,240 [Laughter] 164 00:06:18,790 --> 00:06:17,759 well listen hey it's not just for the 165 00:06:20,469 --> 00:06:18,800 it's not just for the man i'll tell you 166 00:06:22,710 --> 00:06:20,479 what the ladies can use that too it has 167 00:06:24,790 --> 00:06:22,720 it is irregardless it does not care the 168 00:06:26,629 --> 00:06:24,800 gender spectrum does not exist to it it 169 00:06:28,150 --> 00:06:26,639 simply is here to service so 170 00:06:29,909 --> 00:06:28,160 we don't have to worry about that we 171 00:06:31,350 --> 00:06:29,919 don't have to worry about it 172 00:06:34,550 --> 00:06:31,360 um okay 173 00:06:36,870 --> 00:06:34,560 yeah yeah so so first of all i i do have 174 00:06:38,469 --> 00:06:36,880 to ask what did you think when you when 175 00:06:40,710 --> 00:06:38,479 you got a message 176 00:06:44,230 --> 00:06:40,720 from me reaching out to me like 177 00:06:45,590 --> 00:06:44,240 hey um oh so like uh my name is will and 178 00:06:47,749 --> 00:06:45,600 do you wanna come hang out in a van in 179 00:06:49,909 --> 00:06:47,759 my garage 180 00:06:50,710 --> 00:06:49,919 but here's the thing will here's the 181 00:06:52,710 --> 00:06:50,720 thing 182 00:06:54,870 --> 00:06:52,720 so i get a message from him maybe two 183 00:06:57,189 --> 00:06:54,880 weeks or a week after i was on alien 184 00:06:59,510 --> 00:06:57,199 girls podcast and he goes you might not 185 00:07:01,110 --> 00:06:59,520 know who i am and then i was like i 186 00:07:03,749 --> 00:07:01,120 thought i just talked to this dude like 187 00:07:07,430 --> 00:07:03,759 two weeks ago like either i'm crazy or 188 00:07:09,029 --> 00:07:07,440 he's crazy so i go back to youtube and i 189 00:07:12,790 --> 00:07:09,039 check alien girl's video and i was like 190 00:07:14,950 --> 00:07:12,800 no it's the same guy so i'm like 100 me 191 00:07:16,550 --> 00:07:14,960 i was like how could i j i literally 192 00:07:17,510 --> 00:07:16,560 just talked to you 193 00:07:19,270 --> 00:07:17,520 yeah 194 00:07:21,270 --> 00:07:19,280 i i don't know what happened it was a 195 00:07:23,749 --> 00:07:21,280 long week the hours the days blend 196 00:07:25,270 --> 00:07:23,759 together i don't know what it was but 197 00:07:26,790 --> 00:07:25,280 i sent that 198 00:07:29,270 --> 00:07:26,800 i also thought perhaps you didn't 199 00:07:30,390 --> 00:07:29,280 remember that you spoke to me 200 00:07:31,830 --> 00:07:30,400 um 201 00:07:33,749 --> 00:07:31,840 that's probably i'm i'm out talking to 202 00:07:35,670 --> 00:07:33,759 so many people you know that i just 203 00:07:37,990 --> 00:07:35,680 can't keep track of them anymore yeah 204 00:07:38,950 --> 00:07:38,000 once you sent that and then it dawned on 205 00:07:41,589 --> 00:07:38,960 him like 206 00:07:43,990 --> 00:07:41,599 oh no we definitely talked 207 00:07:46,710 --> 00:07:44,000 oh see you're like were you just cold 208 00:07:49,029 --> 00:07:46,720 calling me you're like hey there's a ufo 209 00:07:51,510 --> 00:07:49,039 chick i'm just sending me 210 00:07:54,309 --> 00:07:51,520 no we did i did i i don't know why i 211 00:07:55,990 --> 00:07:54,319 think i had sent something similar-ish 212 00:07:58,390 --> 00:07:56,000 in a pr to a previous person and i 213 00:08:00,790 --> 00:07:58,400 probably used that draft and i forgot to 214 00:08:03,350 --> 00:08:00,800 erase that part because i knew i told 215 00:08:05,430 --> 00:08:03,360 her you like we had actually 216 00:08:06,629 --> 00:08:05,440 exactly we spoke we spoke for a little 217 00:08:08,550 --> 00:08:06,639 while too 218 00:08:11,430 --> 00:08:08,560 and then i got a form letter 219 00:08:13,749 --> 00:08:11,440 form letters from big willy 220 00:08:15,110 --> 00:08:13,759 but either way it led to us here it led 221 00:08:16,950 --> 00:08:15,120 to tonight 222 00:08:18,629 --> 00:08:16,960 it led to black dragon hopping in and 223 00:08:21,350 --> 00:08:18,639 saying hello beautiful people hello to 224 00:08:23,029 --> 00:08:21,360 you thank you for being here 225 00:08:24,230 --> 00:08:23,039 so um 226 00:08:25,510 --> 00:08:24,240 you know it's funny too because when we 227 00:08:27,909 --> 00:08:25,520 first got talking about it and i'd seen 228 00:08:29,909 --> 00:08:27,919 you on alien girl i was like okay so and 229 00:08:31,029 --> 00:08:29,919 i caught kind of the tail end of it i 230 00:08:32,949 --> 00:08:31,039 remember that i remember i was like i 231 00:08:35,269 --> 00:08:32,959 was only catching maybe 10-15 minutes 232 00:08:38,550 --> 00:08:35,279 before i hopped on with you guys 233 00:08:40,230 --> 00:08:38,560 and um i was like oh so she's like a ufo 234 00:08:42,149 --> 00:08:40,240 reporter right and and i kind of thought 235 00:08:44,389 --> 00:08:42,159 that was like your your gig or your your 236 00:08:45,910 --> 00:08:44,399 niche and then i started looking into it 237 00:08:47,269 --> 00:08:45,920 a little more and you got like actually 238 00:08:48,630 --> 00:08:47,279 talking and i was like oh whoa she's 239 00:08:50,470 --> 00:08:48,640 doing a lot more than this which i'm not 240 00:08:52,470 --> 00:08:50,480 taking anything away from the ufo topic 241 00:08:54,949 --> 00:08:52,480 we're all about ufos here but for sure 242 00:08:57,350 --> 00:08:54,959 so much more and it is very broad and 243 00:08:58,630 --> 00:08:57,360 there's a lot going on in the world so 244 00:09:00,790 --> 00:08:58,640 for you 245 00:09:02,389 --> 00:09:00,800 why don't you tell me also what you have 246 00:09:03,509 --> 00:09:02,399 coming up and anything i might have 247 00:09:04,550 --> 00:09:03,519 missed about letting people know where 248 00:09:06,150 --> 00:09:04,560 they could find let's get that out of 249 00:09:07,990 --> 00:09:06,160 the way first well let's let's i guess 250 00:09:10,550 --> 00:09:08,000 we'll start with that so you can find me 251 00:09:13,190 --> 00:09:10,560 live every wednesday night at 6 p.m 252 00:09:15,350 --> 00:09:13,200 pacific on the fringe fm 253 00:09:17,910 --> 00:09:15,360 which is also on the talk stream live 254 00:09:20,630 --> 00:09:17,920 app the paranormal radio app and we also 255 00:09:23,269 --> 00:09:20,640 have the fringe fm app 256 00:09:25,590 --> 00:09:23,279 i also do the news five nights a week 257 00:09:27,829 --> 00:09:25,600 there and it plays throughout the day so 258 00:09:30,150 --> 00:09:27,839 you can catch my broadcast uh between 259 00:09:33,110 --> 00:09:30,160 shows and during commercial breaks 260 00:09:34,949 --> 00:09:33,120 and on there i cover fringe topics 261 00:09:37,430 --> 00:09:34,959 lately i've been covering a lot of 262 00:09:40,389 --> 00:09:37,440 defense stuff a lot of technology stuff 263 00:09:42,710 --> 00:09:40,399 a lot of ai stuff just you know so 264 00:09:45,350 --> 00:09:42,720 people kind of know what's going on 265 00:09:48,790 --> 00:09:45,360 that's how i feel like my role is as the 266 00:09:51,030 --> 00:09:48,800 news broadcaster for the station 267 00:09:52,870 --> 00:09:51,040 very nice and did you say that is that 268 00:09:54,630 --> 00:09:52,880 every wednesday night then or no 269 00:09:56,710 --> 00:09:54,640 so every wednesday night at 6 p.m 270 00:09:58,949 --> 00:09:56,720 pacific i have my show the rogi report 271 00:10:00,949 --> 00:09:58,959 which is an hour long show and uh 272 00:10:03,350 --> 00:10:00,959 sometimes i have guests sometimes i just 273 00:10:05,350 --> 00:10:03,360 roll solo and do an hour-long rant which 274 00:10:06,389 --> 00:10:05,360 is fun too you know 275 00:10:08,069 --> 00:10:06,399 um 276 00:10:09,990 --> 00:10:08,079 upcoming so i guess you know what we're 277 00:10:12,310 --> 00:10:10,000 talking about too is that that like just 278 00:10:13,350 --> 00:10:12,320 doesn't just do ufos guys 279 00:10:15,509 --> 00:10:13,360 um 280 00:10:17,350 --> 00:10:15,519 so coming up next we are i guess i'm 281 00:10:19,670 --> 00:10:17,360 recording it next thursday but tommy 282 00:10:21,509 --> 00:10:19,680 chong is coming on the show 283 00:10:22,630 --> 00:10:21,519 oh snap 284 00:10:25,910 --> 00:10:22,640 yes 285 00:10:28,310 --> 00:10:25,920 tommy chong i am so excited 286 00:10:29,990 --> 00:10:28,320 i didn't believe i emailed him and i 287 00:10:32,069 --> 00:10:30,000 didn't think i'd get a response so it 288 00:10:34,230 --> 00:10:32,079 was one of those and you're like you 289 00:10:36,870 --> 00:10:34,240 know crap i gotta get prepared 290 00:10:38,550 --> 00:10:36,880 no yeah so i've been it's been the best 291 00:10:40,389 --> 00:10:38,560 research ever 292 00:10:41,430 --> 00:10:40,399 ever i've been watching cheech and chong 293 00:10:44,710 --> 00:10:41,440 movies 294 00:10:47,269 --> 00:10:44,720 i've been reading chong's book this 295 00:10:49,030 --> 00:10:47,279 it's like so chill i'm going to watch a 296 00:10:50,790 --> 00:10:49,040 cheech and chong movie 297 00:10:52,630 --> 00:10:50,800 probably tonight 298 00:10:54,790 --> 00:10:52,640 that's the way to do it i got you know 299 00:10:56,710 --> 00:10:54,800 to be fair i gotta disclose everyone so 300 00:10:58,230 --> 00:10:56,720 i've never watched 301 00:10:59,190 --> 00:10:58,240 i've seen clips of all the movies right 302 00:11:00,470 --> 00:10:59,200 but i've never actually said it down and 303 00:11:01,990 --> 00:11:00,480 watched one 304 00:11:04,630 --> 00:11:02,000 no no i mean 305 00:11:06,790 --> 00:11:04,640 they're like from a time you know and 306 00:11:08,550 --> 00:11:06,800 even though it even says like there's 307 00:11:10,710 --> 00:11:08,560 even a warning before you watch them 308 00:11:13,430 --> 00:11:10,720 it's like culturally like insensitive 309 00:11:15,190 --> 00:11:13,440 for this time period like 310 00:11:17,990 --> 00:11:15,200 some kind of warning like that you watch 311 00:11:19,829 --> 00:11:18,000 it and it's like looking into like this 312 00:11:21,990 --> 00:11:19,839 picture of like 313 00:11:24,470 --> 00:11:22,000 i don't know like the 70s the 80s you 314 00:11:26,310 --> 00:11:24,480 know you're like whoa was it that crazy 315 00:11:27,350 --> 00:11:26,320 that's what i want to know i'm gonna ask 316 00:11:28,949 --> 00:11:27,360 chong 317 00:11:31,350 --> 00:11:28,959 but not only that i reached out to 318 00:11:33,430 --> 00:11:31,360 another gentleman that i really wanted 319 00:11:36,470 --> 00:11:33,440 to talk to like this is one of my bucket 320 00:11:38,630 --> 00:11:36,480 list guests chong is as well 321 00:11:40,710 --> 00:11:38,640 but i reached out to david ike 322 00:11:43,269 --> 00:11:40,720 and david ike's coming on my show like 323 00:11:45,350 --> 00:11:43,279 three days after chong so okay i have a 324 00:11:47,430 --> 00:11:45,360 busy two weeks 325 00:11:49,509 --> 00:11:47,440 nice yeah cause i was listening to uh 326 00:11:51,190 --> 00:11:49,519 your show on wednesday night and i i i 327 00:11:52,790 --> 00:11:51,200 was kind of as you know you had the 328 00:11:54,069 --> 00:11:52,800 issues you were there facing it and it 329 00:11:55,509 --> 00:11:54,079 was kind of jumping in and out but i 330 00:11:57,030 --> 00:11:55,519 thought you'd mentioned about that night 331 00:11:58,230 --> 00:11:57,040 you were having him on was he supposed 332 00:12:01,190 --> 00:11:58,240 to be on you had to reschedule or 333 00:12:03,829 --> 00:12:01,200 something no no i have ike scheduled for 334 00:12:05,509 --> 00:12:03,839 um i believe i have i i'm doing a 335 00:12:07,269 --> 00:12:05,519 pre-recorded interview because he wants 336 00:12:08,470 --> 00:12:07,279 to do pre-recorded and i'm like okay you 337 00:12:10,790 --> 00:12:08,480 want to do pre-recorded whatever you 338 00:12:12,550 --> 00:12:10,800 want man whatever time i'm there 339 00:12:15,030 --> 00:12:12,560 i don't care like 340 00:12:16,870 --> 00:12:15,040 so we're pre-recording on the 11th but 341 00:12:18,629 --> 00:12:16,880 the i'm going to be playing trong's 342 00:12:20,949 --> 00:12:18,639 interview on the 13th and that'll be 343 00:12:22,550 --> 00:12:20,959 premiering live in the station so we 344 00:12:23,430 --> 00:12:22,560 will also have the discord open that 345 00:12:25,670 --> 00:12:23,440 evening 346 00:12:27,350 --> 00:12:25,680 and then two weeks later on the 27th 347 00:12:29,509 --> 00:12:27,360 we're going to be premiering the david 348 00:12:32,790 --> 00:12:29,519 ike interview live on the fringe fm at 6 349 00:12:33,910 --> 00:12:32,800 p.m pacific on the 27th 350 00:12:35,910 --> 00:12:33,920 nice 351 00:12:37,990 --> 00:12:35,920 yeah i agree with the divine pines here 352 00:12:39,190 --> 00:12:38,000 he said wow jess that's a good two 353 00:12:40,629 --> 00:12:39,200 guests 354 00:12:42,150 --> 00:12:40,639 many 100 percents there that could be 355 00:12:44,470 --> 00:12:42,160 one thing i know it's there 356 00:12:48,310 --> 00:12:44,480 congratulations 357 00:12:50,470 --> 00:12:48,320 it's nuts because they happened like 358 00:12:52,389 --> 00:12:50,480 almost simultaneously you know it was 359 00:12:54,550 --> 00:12:52,399 like boom boom and i was like i was so 360 00:12:57,190 --> 00:12:54,560 excited about ike i had i scheduled then 361 00:12:58,550 --> 00:12:57,200 chong was like yes i'll do it on the 7th 362 00:13:00,629 --> 00:12:58,560 and i was like 363 00:13:01,990 --> 00:13:00,639 yes yes you will 364 00:13:03,829 --> 00:13:02,000 i don't care whatever date you want to 365 00:13:04,949 --> 00:13:03,839 give me i'll take it 366 00:13:06,870 --> 00:13:04,959 nice 367 00:13:08,310 --> 00:13:06,880 yeah it's well you know what's so funny 368 00:13:09,670 --> 00:13:08,320 about this and i suppose that we kind of 369 00:13:12,310 --> 00:13:09,680 hit out in your bio just a little bit 370 00:13:14,310 --> 00:13:12,320 there the adventure and the the 371 00:13:16,790 --> 00:13:14,320 the trip that is life i guess and how it 372 00:13:17,829 --> 00:13:16,800 just ups and downs so i guess if we 373 00:13:19,590 --> 00:13:17,839 could 374 00:13:21,269 --> 00:13:19,600 talk about jess right now who you know 375 00:13:23,269 --> 00:13:21,279 the two guests she currently has 376 00:13:24,870 --> 00:13:23,279 if you could go back and mention to your 377 00:13:26,870 --> 00:13:24,880 younger self when you're like i'm gonna 378 00:13:28,310 --> 00:13:26,880 be a reporter i'm gonna go and do this 379 00:13:30,069 --> 00:13:28,320 did you ever think that you would have 380 00:13:31,030 --> 00:13:30,079 the opportunity that and mata asked do 381 00:13:32,829 --> 00:13:31,040 you think you would have had this 382 00:13:36,150 --> 00:13:32,839 opportunity if you had gone with the 383 00:13:39,670 --> 00:13:36,160 mainstream media route 384 00:13:43,910 --> 00:13:41,829 did i ever see myself you know i thought 385 00:13:46,949 --> 00:13:43,920 about that when i reached out 386 00:13:50,470 --> 00:13:46,959 to ike i thought about like if you told 387 00:13:53,670 --> 00:13:50,480 me when i was sitting there years ago 388 00:13:57,670 --> 00:13:53,680 watching david ike freaking 389 00:13:59,509 --> 00:13:57,680 seven eight hour lectures on youtube 390 00:14:01,590 --> 00:13:59,519 thinking that i would be sitting here 391 00:14:02,710 --> 00:14:01,600 and speaking to him more than a decade 392 00:14:05,189 --> 00:14:02,720 later 393 00:14:06,949 --> 00:14:05,199 no i would have never believed you 394 00:14:08,790 --> 00:14:06,959 even if you told me while i was in 395 00:14:09,990 --> 00:14:08,800 broadcast school that i'd be talking to 396 00:14:11,430 --> 00:14:10,000 chong 397 00:14:12,949 --> 00:14:11,440 i wouldn't believe you 398 00:14:14,550 --> 00:14:12,959 yeah 399 00:14:18,470 --> 00:14:14,560 so 400 00:14:20,629 --> 00:14:18,480 to have the opportunity 401 00:14:23,110 --> 00:14:20,639 you know i've interviewed some you know 402 00:14:24,389 --> 00:14:23,120 people and you know but nothing super 403 00:14:25,590 --> 00:14:24,399 big you know 404 00:14:29,829 --> 00:14:25,600 that 405 00:14:32,150 --> 00:14:29,839 before i don't know vanilla ice i 406 00:14:34,629 --> 00:14:32,160 interviewed vanilla ice oh nice that's a 407 00:14:36,230 --> 00:14:34,639 fun one come on that's a fun one right 408 00:14:38,069 --> 00:14:36,240 no and all i could think of was like the 409 00:14:39,269 --> 00:14:38,079 ninja turtles part right i was like it's 410 00:14:44,550 --> 00:14:39,279 like just like it's the guy from the 411 00:14:47,670 --> 00:14:46,230 oh man 412 00:14:49,750 --> 00:14:47,680 so awesome 413 00:14:51,509 --> 00:14:49,760 so you know that one i that one was more 414 00:14:53,750 --> 00:14:51,519 of a means that was you know through 415 00:14:55,189 --> 00:14:53,760 that was back you know in school and 416 00:14:56,550 --> 00:14:55,199 that was like more of like that was 417 00:14:58,470 --> 00:14:56,560 probably like i was like that's probably 418 00:15:01,110 --> 00:14:58,480 the biggest that's going to get as far 419 00:15:02,790 --> 00:15:01,120 as doing like a mainstream news thing 420 00:15:03,990 --> 00:15:02,800 because if not you're interviewing just 421 00:15:05,590 --> 00:15:04,000 people 422 00:15:07,509 --> 00:15:05,600 who have something to do with the news 423 00:15:09,750 --> 00:15:07,519 story 424 00:15:11,670 --> 00:15:09,760 yup yeah it seems to get a little and it 425 00:15:13,030 --> 00:15:11,680 don't get me wrong well i don't think it 426 00:15:14,550 --> 00:15:13,040 does some people say that it gets 427 00:15:15,670 --> 00:15:14,560 repetitive here in the podcast community 428 00:15:17,590 --> 00:15:15,680 or those that are youtubing or 429 00:15:18,949 --> 00:15:17,600 independently broadcasting and 430 00:15:20,870 --> 00:15:18,959 journalism 431 00:15:22,949 --> 00:15:20,880 i don't think so necessarily because we 432 00:15:25,509 --> 00:15:22,959 have a lot more freedom to actually have 433 00:15:27,350 --> 00:15:25,519 conversations 434 00:15:28,870 --> 00:15:27,360 yeah don't mention that dirty word oh my 435 00:15:29,670 --> 00:15:28,880 god no let me tell you because when 436 00:15:31,509 --> 00:15:29,680 you're 437 00:15:33,670 --> 00:15:31,519 if you do this like for a broadcast like 438 00:15:36,310 --> 00:15:33,680 for broadcast right you write your 439 00:15:38,069 --> 00:15:36,320 questions to elicit a certain type of 440 00:15:39,990 --> 00:15:38,079 sound bite you want to get something 441 00:15:42,550 --> 00:15:40,000 that's quotable that you can cut out and 442 00:15:44,470 --> 00:15:42,560 put into a new segment you know 443 00:15:46,230 --> 00:15:44,480 you're not really speaking to somebody 444 00:15:48,470 --> 00:15:46,240 to get to know when you don't have that 445 00:15:49,350 --> 00:15:48,480 flexibility too of who you want to talk 446 00:15:52,069 --> 00:15:49,360 to 447 00:15:54,150 --> 00:15:52,079 so that's why i think this this is 448 00:15:57,030 --> 00:15:54,160 awesome independent broadcasting 449 00:15:59,030 --> 00:15:57,040 youtubing you know i think you just have 450 00:16:00,949 --> 00:15:59,040 so much more freedom and that's what i 451 00:16:02,310 --> 00:16:00,959 didn't like about 452 00:16:04,069 --> 00:16:02,320 i mean i knew of course if i'm in the 453 00:16:06,310 --> 00:16:04,079 mainstream you don't have a choice you 454 00:16:08,150 --> 00:16:06,320 get your assignment you know or you're 455 00:16:10,310 --> 00:16:08,160 just an anchor and you just read what 456 00:16:11,350 --> 00:16:10,320 the teleprompter says 457 00:16:12,310 --> 00:16:11,360 yeah 458 00:16:14,389 --> 00:16:12,320 which is 459 00:16:16,069 --> 00:16:14,399 i don't know i mean well let's dig into 460 00:16:17,590 --> 00:16:16,079 that a little bit i guess what what made 461 00:16:18,949 --> 00:16:17,600 you make that decision because you had 462 00:16:20,389 --> 00:16:18,959 the opportunity from understanding you 463 00:16:22,790 --> 00:16:20,399 you went and pursued this you got your 464 00:16:24,069 --> 00:16:22,800 degree and what was the changing point 465 00:16:26,790 --> 00:16:24,079 was there something that came up that 466 00:16:29,590 --> 00:16:26,800 made you it happened it happened in 467 00:16:31,189 --> 00:16:29,600 school it happened during school 468 00:16:32,870 --> 00:16:31,199 you know while i was in school i started 469 00:16:34,710 --> 00:16:32,880 looking at the other kids in the you 470 00:16:36,870 --> 00:16:34,720 know broadcast journalism program and 471 00:16:38,069 --> 00:16:36,880 i'm like oh my god i'm so different than 472 00:16:41,030 --> 00:16:38,079 these people 473 00:16:42,949 --> 00:16:41,040 this is this this seems like and i mean 474 00:16:45,030 --> 00:16:42,959 it seemed more like people who were very 475 00:16:46,790 --> 00:16:45,040 attractive that wanted to get on to be 476 00:16:47,829 --> 00:16:46,800 on camera for the news 477 00:16:49,749 --> 00:16:47,839 yeah 478 00:16:51,430 --> 00:16:49,759 and i was like well i want to do news 479 00:16:52,629 --> 00:16:51,440 you know 480 00:16:54,150 --> 00:16:52,639 you're taking a shot at yourself right 481 00:16:55,590 --> 00:16:54,160 now you're taking a dig saying i i 482 00:16:57,269 --> 00:16:55,600 wasn't attractive enough that you just 483 00:16:58,150 --> 00:16:57,279 basically said about yourself i think i 484 00:16:59,110 --> 00:16:58,160 i i 485 00:17:00,389 --> 00:16:59,120 did 486 00:17:01,509 --> 00:17:00,399 you're not allowed to do that on this 487 00:17:03,189 --> 00:17:01,519 you can't you can't take dignity or 488 00:17:05,750 --> 00:17:03,199 something like that i do get what you're 489 00:17:07,750 --> 00:17:05,760 saying though there is like a look 490 00:17:10,069 --> 00:17:07,760 there's a like there's the broadcast 491 00:17:13,350 --> 00:17:10,079 look i don't look like you know like 492 00:17:15,189 --> 00:17:13,360 what the normal anchor looks like yeah 493 00:17:16,630 --> 00:17:15,199 no i know what i mean i mean i think 494 00:17:19,350 --> 00:17:16,640 listen you're attractive ladies i don't 495 00:17:21,110 --> 00:17:19,360 think 496 00:17:23,110 --> 00:17:21,120 that's okay that's okay you got a great 497 00:17:25,029 --> 00:17:23,120 voice you got all that baby saying like 498 00:17:27,110 --> 00:17:25,039 i like having a beard and 499 00:17:28,870 --> 00:17:27,120 you just don't see broadcasters with 500 00:17:30,310 --> 00:17:28,880 beards it just doesn't happen it's one 501 00:17:32,470 --> 00:17:30,320 of those things and it's like 502 00:17:33,430 --> 00:17:32,480 does that make me not educated on 503 00:17:35,270 --> 00:17:33,440 whatever i might talk about i don't 504 00:17:36,390 --> 00:17:35,280 think so but that is interesting did you 505 00:17:37,830 --> 00:17:36,400 bring that up so you started to notice 506 00:17:39,270 --> 00:17:37,840 in college you're saying all right i'm 507 00:17:42,070 --> 00:17:39,280 starting to notice a trend here there's 508 00:17:44,390 --> 00:17:42,080 like i'm starting to notice like hmm 509 00:17:46,549 --> 00:17:44,400 but then so the school i went to was 510 00:17:48,070 --> 00:17:46,559 also a film school so like i was in the 511 00:17:50,150 --> 00:17:48,080 same you know school in the university 512 00:17:53,350 --> 00:17:50,160 so i could take film classes so i was 513 00:17:54,549 --> 00:17:53,360 like i'm just going to take a [\h__\h] 514 00:17:57,190 --> 00:17:54,559 i'm sorry you said i could curse you 515 00:18:01,669 --> 00:17:57,200 yeah you should tell enough classes so i 516 00:18:03,510 --> 00:18:01,679 took a [\h__\h] ton of film classes too nice 517 00:18:05,270 --> 00:18:03,520 so like i got way more than i needed for 518 00:18:07,190 --> 00:18:05,280 my degree but i just took a bunch of 519 00:18:09,669 --> 00:18:07,200 film classes i took a couple semesters 520 00:18:12,870 --> 00:18:09,679 taking you know film editing production 521 00:18:14,070 --> 00:18:12,880 design cinematography screenwriting you 522 00:18:16,630 --> 00:18:14,080 know 523 00:18:17,510 --> 00:18:16,640 so i i got all the film stuff too for 524 00:18:19,590 --> 00:18:17,520 fun 525 00:18:21,510 --> 00:18:19,600 but i knew that so coming out of school 526 00:18:23,110 --> 00:18:21,520 i was like at least i could fall back on 527 00:18:23,909 --> 00:18:23,120 this film thing 528 00:18:25,110 --> 00:18:23,919 yeah 529 00:18:27,190 --> 00:18:25,120 you know it's funny too because like 530 00:18:28,789 --> 00:18:27,200 divine pines bring up here uh or 509 as 531 00:18:30,549 --> 00:18:28,799 we call him here he's like he says this 532 00:18:33,110 --> 00:18:30,559 because you ain't sheep that way he says 533 00:18:35,430 --> 00:18:33,120 the mainstream media wants sheep all 534 00:18:37,590 --> 00:18:35,440 looking the same 535 00:18:39,510 --> 00:18:37,600 you know and it is interesting that 536 00:18:41,029 --> 00:18:39,520 certain networks always have that 537 00:18:42,710 --> 00:18:41,039 certain look the look there's a little 538 00:18:45,190 --> 00:18:42,720 the look right we all know about the 539 00:18:46,710 --> 00:18:45,200 look come on guys 540 00:18:48,390 --> 00:18:46,720 so what do you think that has to do with 541 00:18:51,750 --> 00:18:48,400 though like do you think that 542 00:18:53,590 --> 00:18:51,760 had you pursued just the the mainstream 543 00:18:56,150 --> 00:18:53,600 was it more than just the look did you 544 00:18:57,909 --> 00:18:56,160 did you start to you notice the oh 545 00:18:59,990 --> 00:18:57,919 it was just like 546 00:19:02,470 --> 00:19:00,000 nobody was a jerk nobody really seemed 547 00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:02,480 to be a journalist i had also 548 00:19:06,710 --> 00:19:04,720 done a broadcast journalism program at a 549 00:19:09,510 --> 00:19:06,720 junior college before transferring over 550 00:19:11,110 --> 00:19:09,520 to university and that grouping was a 551 00:19:13,990 --> 00:19:11,120 lot more 552 00:19:15,669 --> 00:19:14,000 diverse but then also like nobody really 553 00:19:19,110 --> 00:19:15,679 like there's a handful of people that 554 00:19:22,789 --> 00:19:21,270 and i think it's because you find out 555 00:19:24,230 --> 00:19:22,799 that it's 556 00:19:25,750 --> 00:19:24,240 it's not what you think it is you know 557 00:19:28,150 --> 00:19:25,760 it's like i said earlier it's you get 558 00:19:30,310 --> 00:19:28,160 this story you cover this story or you 559 00:19:32,789 --> 00:19:30,320 you know it's not like 560 00:19:34,630 --> 00:19:32,799 there's no freedom so you're just 561 00:19:36,470 --> 00:19:34,640 you're talking head you're gonna be a 562 00:19:38,870 --> 00:19:36,480 talking head that just says what they 563 00:19:40,870 --> 00:19:38,880 want you to say i don't think if 564 00:19:42,630 --> 00:19:40,880 anything i mean you you picked a great 565 00:19:44,710 --> 00:19:42,640 time whether you knew it at the time or 566 00:19:46,230 --> 00:19:44,720 not as far as making 567 00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:46,240 right making that little bit of a switch 568 00:19:49,590 --> 00:19:48,240 because a lot of people and it's 569 00:19:51,990 --> 00:19:49,600 regardless of everybody's opinions on 570 00:19:54,789 --> 00:19:52,000 this i guess a lot of people have moved 571 00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:54,799 towards alternative news sources so yes 572 00:19:58,150 --> 00:19:56,640 i think you picked a great time you 573 00:20:00,070 --> 00:19:58,160 still have the backing that's the one 574 00:20:01,270 --> 00:20:00,080 downside with some of us i guess is like 575 00:20:03,190 --> 00:20:01,280 first of all i don't ever claim to be a 576 00:20:04,549 --> 00:20:03,200 reporter any of that jazz because like 577 00:20:07,190 --> 00:20:04,559 how does the dude who enjoys talking 578 00:20:08,950 --> 00:20:07,200 about fun stuff but 579 00:20:10,149 --> 00:20:08,960 we don't have that we can't if somebody 580 00:20:12,390 --> 00:20:10,159 i guess push came to shove and they're 581 00:20:14,470 --> 00:20:12,400 like you don't even have a degree 582 00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:14,480 and i'm not knocking degrees completely 583 00:20:17,270 --> 00:20:15,840 like i'm not 584 00:20:18,549 --> 00:20:17,280 but sometimes we get a little bit too 585 00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:18,559 hung up on that so at least in your case 586 00:20:22,470 --> 00:20:20,480 you're like listen i actually did go for 587 00:20:23,590 --> 00:20:22,480 this it's just i've chosen to go this 588 00:20:26,070 --> 00:20:23,600 route so 589 00:20:28,950 --> 00:20:26,080 i did 590 00:20:30,549 --> 00:20:28,960 i went to all the school you know i 591 00:20:32,310 --> 00:20:30,559 i did all that crap i held the 592 00:20:34,390 --> 00:20:32,320 microphone in front of the camera and 593 00:20:35,909 --> 00:20:34,400 stood on the street and you know talk to 594 00:20:38,549 --> 00:20:35,919 people and 595 00:20:39,830 --> 00:20:38,559 did you enjoy that the energy was like 596 00:20:41,830 --> 00:20:39,840 it was fun 597 00:20:44,310 --> 00:20:41,840 you know what i loved what i still i 598 00:20:46,549 --> 00:20:44,320 kind of loved was just being 599 00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:46,559 in the studio and you know doing the 600 00:20:51,029 --> 00:20:49,120 anchoring stuff i really liked 601 00:20:52,710 --> 00:20:51,039 you know sitting there get well i guess 602 00:20:54,330 --> 00:20:52,720 we'll get what makes sense i like 603 00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:54,340 sitting there and talking to the camera 604 00:20:58,630 --> 00:20:56,799 [Laughter] 605 00:21:00,070 --> 00:20:58,640 so that was kind of my favorite thing 606 00:21:02,230 --> 00:21:00,080 and it was great because you had like 607 00:21:04,070 --> 00:21:02,240 the stage guy or stage director i think 608 00:21:06,070 --> 00:21:04,080 it was called and then like he would do 609 00:21:07,909 --> 00:21:06,080 all your timing he'd be like okay here 610 00:21:08,789 --> 00:21:07,919 you go point like in wayne's world where 611 00:21:11,350 --> 00:21:08,799 they're like 612 00:21:15,590 --> 00:21:13,029 you know 613 00:21:17,350 --> 00:21:15,600 and um that's fun you got the big you 614 00:21:19,909 --> 00:21:17,360 got a camera 615 00:21:22,230 --> 00:21:19,919 the size of like a computer monitor like 616 00:21:24,310 --> 00:21:22,240 in your face you know with words rolling 617 00:21:26,470 --> 00:21:24,320 up and down it that's one thing i don't 618 00:21:29,990 --> 00:21:26,480 miss though is a teleprompter 619 00:21:31,909 --> 00:21:30,000 i can't i'm so bad at reading um it's so 620 00:21:33,669 --> 00:21:31,919 weird that like in my head i i can read 621 00:21:34,549 --> 00:21:33,679 everything fine but it's 622 00:21:36,070 --> 00:21:34,559 my 623 00:21:37,990 --> 00:21:36,080 mouth doesn't keep up with whatever's 624 00:21:40,149 --> 00:21:38,000 going on in my head a lot of times and 625 00:21:41,909 --> 00:21:40,159 so i know i could never do teleprompting 626 00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:41,919 like we could even first my brother and 627 00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:44,480 i ever tried to do oh dude i i mean i've 628 00:21:47,830 --> 00:21:45,840 messed with it like once or twice just 629 00:21:49,430 --> 00:21:47,840 for some small local stuff 630 00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:49,440 and it was okay if you like knew your 631 00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:51,120 lines ending like going in and out but 632 00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:52,000 then after a while you're not even 633 00:21:55,830 --> 00:21:53,280 reading those but if they needed you to 634 00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:55,840 read forbade em this thing 635 00:21:59,990 --> 00:21:58,080 forget it it's like i psyched myself out 636 00:22:02,470 --> 00:22:00,000 just because i knew i couldn't like not 637 00:22:03,830 --> 00:22:02,480 say a certain word or whatever and it's 638 00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:03,840 you can tell some people are really good 639 00:22:08,310 --> 00:22:06,000 at it though those robotic people 640 00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:08,320 are really good at that they're good at 641 00:22:13,510 --> 00:22:10,480 it but 642 00:22:15,750 --> 00:22:13,520 no like i my eyes like you could see my 643 00:22:17,430 --> 00:22:15,760 eyes like going back and forth and 644 00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:17,440 following the lines 645 00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:19,200 it was so bad 646 00:22:22,230 --> 00:22:20,080 um 647 00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:22,240 and it's hard because it i mean art it's 648 00:22:26,950 --> 00:22:24,080 difficult because uh some p you know 649 00:22:28,549 --> 00:22:26,960 it's it's you're reading some other um 650 00:22:29,830 --> 00:22:28,559 people who've written stuff so you 651 00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:29,840 didn't write it 652 00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:32,320 and then also there's another person 653 00:22:36,870 --> 00:22:34,080 who's actually controlling the speed of 654 00:22:38,789 --> 00:22:36,880 it in another room with a headset on 655 00:22:42,630 --> 00:22:38,799 that's trying to figure out the the 656 00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:42,640 speed of your speech and so it's like 657 00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:44,240 fast slow 658 00:22:46,789 --> 00:22:45,440 you know 659 00:22:47,830 --> 00:22:46,799 and that's why 660 00:22:50,070 --> 00:22:47,840 if you don't know if you know him or not 661 00:22:52,950 --> 00:22:50,080 but the the magnificent 662 00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:52,960 hair and beard combo that is dave scott 663 00:22:56,149 --> 00:22:54,720 spaced out radio welcome to the chat 664 00:22:59,669 --> 00:22:56,159 room that's what he says that's why he 665 00:23:01,990 --> 00:22:59,679 stuck to uh to radio face for radio 666 00:23:03,029 --> 00:23:02,000 i like radio i feel you dave i like 667 00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:03,039 radio 668 00:23:07,350 --> 00:23:04,880 i like i only like i only come on 669 00:23:08,549 --> 00:23:07,360 youtube every once in a while i noticed 670 00:23:09,669 --> 00:23:08,559 that because i went to your youtube 671 00:23:12,310 --> 00:23:09,679 channel and i was like i can do some 672 00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:12,320 research just took everything down 673 00:23:15,750 --> 00:23:14,320 yeah there's like one episode per month 674 00:23:17,510 --> 00:23:15,760 and i was like 675 00:23:19,669 --> 00:23:17,520 yeah i know 676 00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:19,679 it's um i spend a lot of my time on the 677 00:23:22,390 --> 00:23:21,120 radio i don't know if a lot of people 678 00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:22,400 know that because a lot of people know 679 00:23:25,830 --> 00:23:24,000 me from youtube and they might have just 680 00:23:28,870 --> 00:23:25,840 assumed i disappeared 681 00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:28,880 but no i've been on the fringe fm i i do 682 00:23:32,070 --> 00:23:31,039 the news five nights a week too so i 683 00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:32,080 have like 684 00:23:36,789 --> 00:23:34,559 i spent a lot of time doing that but i'm 685 00:23:38,710 --> 00:23:36,799 planning to start to bring the youtube 686 00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:38,720 back i interviewed vinnie from 687 00:23:44,149 --> 00:23:42,640 disclosure team yesterday heck yeah 688 00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:44,159 yeah i did miss that one because i was 689 00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:46,320 uh i was supposed to lay my daughter 690 00:23:49,830 --> 00:23:48,640 down for a nap and i don't know if you 691 00:23:50,870 --> 00:23:49,840 guys know what it's like but when you 692 00:23:52,870 --> 00:23:50,880 like 693 00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:52,880 cuddle up to a baby and then they just 694 00:23:56,549 --> 00:23:54,320 cuddle up to you it's like they have 695 00:23:58,710 --> 00:23:56,559 magical powers that just intertwine you 696 00:24:01,110 --> 00:23:58,720 and you're out that's how was that 697 00:24:02,950 --> 00:24:01,120 you were out huh i missed yours and 698 00:24:04,549 --> 00:24:02,960 dave's you guys both went live for some 699 00:24:06,149 --> 00:24:04,559 like random ones more you know well 700 00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:06,159 yours wasn't random but his was mine was 701 00:24:10,630 --> 00:24:07,919 pretty good i mean it was planned random 702 00:24:13,269 --> 00:24:10,640 though like at 11 8 it was at 11 a.m 703 00:24:14,549 --> 00:24:13,279 so it was kind of random time yeah well 704 00:24:15,669 --> 00:24:14,559 but is that 11 am you're getting let's 705 00:24:18,549 --> 00:24:15,679 see that worked out because it was like 706 00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:18,559 what 2 pm my time so i mean it's yeah 707 00:24:21,269 --> 00:24:19,440 yeah 708 00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:21,279 stuff is it's so 709 00:24:26,390 --> 00:24:25,269 as i say what's the latest you've ever 710 00:24:27,909 --> 00:24:26,400 had to bring have you ever done one 711 00:24:29,350 --> 00:24:27,919 where you had to stay up super late or 712 00:24:30,830 --> 00:24:29,360 you brought them up like when you did um 713 00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:30,840 oh my gosh what was his name over in the 714 00:24:38,549 --> 00:24:34,159 uk oh draw a blank right now 715 00:24:41,110 --> 00:24:38,559 i did josh burlington burlington uap uap 716 00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:41,120 josh yes that's it i was to say did who 717 00:24:44,470 --> 00:24:43,600 someone had to stay up late someone did 718 00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:44,480 he did 719 00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:46,960 okay that's him he's because he's you 720 00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:49,039 know he's in the uk even vinnie because 721 00:24:53,669 --> 00:24:51,279 i was at 11 a.m because for vinnie it 722 00:24:56,149 --> 00:24:53,679 was much later in the evening 723 00:24:58,149 --> 00:24:56,159 and then um what even when i'm going to 724 00:25:01,029 --> 00:24:58,159 talk to ike it's going to be at 10 a.m 725 00:25:03,590 --> 00:25:01,039 our time because it's 5 p.m his time 726 00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:03,600 oh thank you patrick breeze 727 00:25:07,190 --> 00:25:05,520 the elf 728 00:25:08,870 --> 00:25:07,200 he's got a magnificent beard too you 729 00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:08,880 talk about it he does 730 00:25:12,390 --> 00:25:11,120 that's a beard that's always joke people 731 00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:12,400 sometimes will say oh you got a beer i'm 732 00:25:17,909 --> 00:25:14,480 like nah joe joe has a beard from the 733 00:25:19,350 --> 00:25:17,919 ufo garage podcast uh elf has a beard 734 00:25:20,549 --> 00:25:19,360 dave's got 735 00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:20,559 i feel like we're similar in the level 736 00:25:23,669 --> 00:25:21,760 of beards and my brother's got a 737 00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:23,679 ridiculous his beard is just ridiculous 738 00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:25,440 i don't even know so what length does it 739 00:25:29,909 --> 00:25:27,360 become a beat like this is not a beard 740 00:25:30,789 --> 00:25:29,919 length is what you're saying 741 00:25:34,549 --> 00:25:30,799 i mean 742 00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:34,559 there's a whole inner community to the 743 00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:36,080 bearded people like some people take it 744 00:25:40,390 --> 00:25:38,159 really seriously i'm not one of those 745 00:25:42,310 --> 00:25:40,400 people i think it's a beard but it's not 746 00:25:43,590 --> 00:25:42,320 it's not the perfect beard and i totally 747 00:25:45,909 --> 00:25:43,600 recognize that some people have very 748 00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:45,919 symmetrical looking beards mine is not 749 00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:47,520 perfectly symmetrical right it's got a 750 00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:49,600 little bit of like a split in the middle 751 00:25:53,669 --> 00:25:51,840 yeah filled 752 00:25:56,149 --> 00:25:53,679 my brother's stays filled alf has a very 753 00:25:57,430 --> 00:25:56,159 nice symmetrical shoot um it just 754 00:25:59,909 --> 00:25:57,440 depends on what you're going for some 755 00:26:02,549 --> 00:25:59,919 people like the braids like sideways 756 00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:02,559 wise it's okay it's like a face shot 757 00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:04,320 yeah yeah i do 758 00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:05,760 i asked the question alien girl that 759 00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:07,200 popped up i remember i would give a 760 00:26:10,630 --> 00:26:08,880 credit my beard did throw you off track 761 00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:10,640 at one point i did i do think that 762 00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:11,760 happened you stopped you were saying 763 00:26:14,870 --> 00:26:12,960 like well that's a nice beer i was like 764 00:26:16,710 --> 00:26:14,880 that's a nice beard 765 00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:16,720 i saw it come in the chat and i saw the 766 00:26:22,950 --> 00:26:20,559 beard all i saw was the beard 767 00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:22,960 family was shaking glad to have you here 768 00:26:26,789 --> 00:26:24,480 tammy's such a good supporter of not 769 00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:26,799 only dave scott show uh spaced out radio 770 00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:28,320 but also the ufo garage podcast we 771 00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:29,600 always love having you in here tammy and 772 00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:31,360 you have such great questions 773 00:26:35,990 --> 00:26:33,039 i believe she's i think in canada it 774 00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:36,000 could be nice um so yeah so and moving 775 00:26:39,669 --> 00:26:37,360 into this though now you also have a 776 00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:39,679 good friend i know uh she i believe goes 777 00:26:45,190 --> 00:26:42,480 by ufo jane generally speaking yes ufo 778 00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:45,200 jane my good friend heck yeah now did 779 00:26:48,470 --> 00:26:47,200 she go and she is an actual journalist 780 00:26:50,070 --> 00:26:48,480 she went into the same career path 781 00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:50,080 correct 782 00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:53,200 but she stuck mainly with the oh she's 783 00:26:57,029 --> 00:26:56,159 very much ufo focused her name is ufo 784 00:26:58,230 --> 00:26:57,039 jane 785 00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:58,240 you know 786 00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:00,240 for a reason right she's throwing subtle 787 00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:02,799 hints out there no but she's got a great 788 00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:04,799 website she's been running for years 789 00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:07,520 texas ufosightings.com 790 00:27:12,070 --> 00:27:09,520 and then she's got the weird ufo show 791 00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:12,080 where she has her she has an alien i 792 00:27:15,190 --> 00:27:13,360 don't know if you know she has an alien 793 00:27:16,390 --> 00:27:15,200 that works with her on the show glurp 794 00:27:19,350 --> 00:27:16,400 yes i got to bring that up to you once 795 00:27:20,549 --> 00:27:19,360 you finish go ahead sorry and uh you 796 00:27:22,870 --> 00:27:20,559 know and we 797 00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:22,880 we do a show you know and it's been kind 798 00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:25,039 of sporadic but uh jane and i do a show 799 00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:27,440 called the weird hollywood podcast where 800 00:27:32,149 --> 00:27:29,520 we talk about movies and then we try to 801 00:27:33,830 --> 00:27:32,159 tie them to cases and talk about you 802 00:27:35,590 --> 00:27:33,840 know or if it's like you know a ghost 803 00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:35,600 movie we'll talk about like oh is this 804 00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:37,760 kind of realistic to what a ghost is or 805 00:27:41,750 --> 00:27:39,600 if this is realistic to kind of what an 806 00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:41,760 abduction is you know or what we think 807 00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:43,440 an abduction is so 808 00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:45,039 that's a lot of fun we've done a lot of 809 00:27:49,029 --> 00:27:46,640 movies if you guys want to check those 810 00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:49,039 out though too those are a lot of fun 811 00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:50,720 now well i guess before we move into 812 00:27:54,070 --> 00:27:51,840 that because i do want to hit on that 813 00:27:56,149 --> 00:27:54,080 point but really quick with her with her 814 00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:56,159 alien uh i'm going to murder the name 815 00:28:01,909 --> 00:27:58,799 here is it glurp or sleep 816 00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:01,919 okay i i was messaging ben about this 817 00:28:06,070 --> 00:28:04,159 because it drove me nuts when i first 818 00:28:07,510 --> 00:28:06,080 came across her channel because of you i 819 00:28:09,110 --> 00:28:07,520 was you know looking you uploading 820 00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:09,120 seeing some of your stuff 821 00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:10,799 and i came across this and i said oh 822 00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:12,799 that's cool she she's totally like has 823 00:28:16,710 --> 00:28:14,640 kept that character from the tv show and 824 00:28:18,389 --> 00:28:16,720 it has him on here as a joke 825 00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:18,399 and then i got looking it up i'm like 826 00:28:23,350 --> 00:28:20,640 wait there's no tv show for this thing 827 00:28:26,549 --> 00:28:23,360 but i have a memory i swear to you of in 828 00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:26,559 the early i was between 2010 and 2012 829 00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:28,320 and it was an alien show 830 00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:30,640 and it had to do with being this alien 831 00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:33,120 that was like in disguise basically 832 00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:34,320 essentially kind of like the resident 833 00:28:38,149 --> 00:28:36,559 alien like how what they yeah yeah i 834 00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:38,159 remember that being with this character 835 00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:41,200 glurp and like 2010 2012 era 836 00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:42,480 but i'm from my understanding that's 837 00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:44,320 never existed right that that doesn't 838 00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:45,520 exist 839 00:28:49,909 --> 00:28:48,080 mandela effect i'm telling you i was 840 00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:49,919 messaging joe about ben about this i 841 00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:51,840 said ben am i lose it i said you gotta 842 00:28:55,909 --> 00:28:53,200 talk like calm me down here because i 843 00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:55,919 was like i swear i swear i've seen this 844 00:28:58,470 --> 00:28:56,960 character 845 00:29:00,070 --> 00:28:58,480 he's like nah man that's he was like 846 00:29:01,750 --> 00:29:00,080 that's that fool that was on uh the the 847 00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:01,760 big phone home and i was like no but 848 00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:03,840 before that i swear this has been a 849 00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:05,440 character now she's had him as a running 850 00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:06,720 character for for a couple years right 851 00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:10,320 like 2018. yeah yeah 852 00:29:13,029 --> 00:29:11,760 i don't know a very long time that's 853 00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:13,039 what some people are saying like mandela 854 00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:15,600 fat yeah mandela you know what i'm going 855 00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:17,760 to message blurp after this and tell him 856 00:29:20,950 --> 00:29:19,200 that there's a 857 00:29:22,230 --> 00:29:20,960 mandela effect 858 00:29:24,149 --> 00:29:22,240 with him 859 00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:24,159 because i believe they create like 860 00:29:28,630 --> 00:29:26,159 that's their character like that's their 861 00:29:30,950 --> 00:29:28,640 dude like i think it's their character 862 00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:30,960 mm-hmm i could have sworn i was googling 863 00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:32,480 images and the only thing i was pulling 864 00:29:35,750 --> 00:29:34,399 up was anything related to her and some 865 00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:35,760 you know like cons that she'd gone to 866 00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:37,120 and stuff and i was like 867 00:29:39,830 --> 00:29:38,640 so anybody in the chat does anybody else 868 00:29:40,870 --> 00:29:39,840 remember this character i should have 869 00:29:42,389 --> 00:29:40,880 downloaded a picture and had it ready 870 00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:42,399 i'm gonna message him like right now i'm 871 00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:44,000 gonna be like clerk they think you were 872 00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:47,039 from a tv show telling you i i thought i 873 00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:48,320 see it on there 874 00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:50,399 um but moving forward i love what you 875 00:29:55,909 --> 00:29:52,559 and jane are doing that way far as the 876 00:29:57,269 --> 00:29:55,919 television or say movies and series this 877 00:29:58,630 --> 00:29:57,279 is my own personal opinion i always say 878 00:30:00,070 --> 00:29:58,640 hey here's my opinion there's no factual 879 00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:00,080 evidence in this sometimes we can 880 00:30:05,430 --> 00:30:03,840 speculate out but i've always felt that 881 00:30:06,470 --> 00:30:05,440 whether it be music 882 00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:06,480 art 883 00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:08,399 hollywood which encompasses both of 884 00:30:12,070 --> 00:30:09,760 those things really 885 00:30:14,549 --> 00:30:12,080 it can be that slow disclosure to bring 886 00:30:15,830 --> 00:30:14,559 people's consciousness and just exposure 887 00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:15,840 and comfort levels of things to a 888 00:30:19,269 --> 00:30:17,760 different level and i feel like the drip 889 00:30:20,470 --> 00:30:19,279 for the ufos besides it being a fun 890 00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:20,480 storyline 891 00:30:23,269 --> 00:30:22,559 has been going on for a long time you 892 00:30:25,669 --> 00:30:23,279 know 893 00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:25,679 i feel like just let's just say area 51 894 00:30:29,909 --> 00:30:28,240 in the 80s and 90s for those that were i 895 00:30:31,750 --> 00:30:29,919 wasn't really up and running at that 896 00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:31,760 point but i was born in like 91 so i 897 00:30:34,630 --> 00:30:33,440 wasn't i was there but i wasn't there 898 00:30:36,389 --> 00:30:34,640 you know but if you were talking about 899 00:30:37,830 --> 00:30:36,399 you were kind coming there i was sort of 900 00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:37,840 there i was doing stuff i don't really 901 00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:39,840 remember what but so if you were talking 902 00:30:42,870 --> 00:30:41,440 about area 51 you're kind of that crazy 903 00:30:44,950 --> 00:30:42,880 person right even up and you could say 904 00:30:46,710 --> 00:30:44,960 almost the early 2000s it was close to 905 00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:46,720 being like crazy person 906 00:30:52,630 --> 00:30:47,520 now 907 00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:52,640 anybody born from 2000 on is like oh 908 00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:54,960 yeah 51 like it's it's a well accepted 909 00:30:58,389 --> 00:30:55,760 thing 910 00:30:59,830 --> 00:30:58,399 so with you and her covering these shows 911 00:31:02,230 --> 00:30:59,840 what are your feelings and or thoughts 912 00:31:04,710 --> 00:31:02,240 on the idea of mainstream media or 913 00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:04,720 hollywood being slow disclosure to stuff 914 00:31:08,149 --> 00:31:06,000 or do you think we have to be careful 915 00:31:09,669 --> 00:31:08,159 and not read too much into that 916 00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:09,679 well i mean there's the whole like 917 00:31:13,190 --> 00:31:11,440 predictive programming thing when it 918 00:31:15,269 --> 00:31:13,200 comes to movies like you know they put 919 00:31:18,149 --> 00:31:15,279 these things in movies before they can 920 00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:18,159 do them as some sort of ritual too so if 921 00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:20,240 you think about like slow drip 922 00:31:25,350 --> 00:31:22,320 disclosure and getting people used to 923 00:31:27,029 --> 00:31:25,360 the idea too if let's take it back let's 924 00:31:28,870 --> 00:31:27,039 talk about something like technology 925 00:31:30,549 --> 00:31:28,880 right you see different technologies 926 00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:30,559 that were put like you know 927 00:31:35,990 --> 00:31:33,600 the star trek communicators or you know 928 00:31:37,909 --> 00:31:36,000 like in back to the future three you 929 00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:37,919 know they got the video screens you can 930 00:31:41,149 --> 00:31:39,760 call people you know 931 00:31:43,830 --> 00:31:41,159 um different 932 00:31:46,630 --> 00:31:43,840 technologies that you know 933 00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:46,640 were put into these movies like a long 934 00:31:50,070 --> 00:31:48,720 time before we actually got these kind 935 00:31:51,669 --> 00:31:50,080 of things you know 936 00:31:53,110 --> 00:31:51,679 very true so you kind of think about 937 00:31:54,789 --> 00:31:53,120 that too so if you think about it in 938 00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:54,799 that sense perhaps the same thing is 939 00:32:00,230 --> 00:31:57,760 going on with like ufos and aliens you 940 00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:00,240 know 941 00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:02,159 i as i say i 942 00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:04,240 to me personally you look at like you 943 00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:06,000 said if nothing else the idea of just at 944 00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:08,320 least getting the consciousness 945 00:32:10,630 --> 00:32:09,919 to a point to where we're more exposed 946 00:32:12,470 --> 00:32:10,640 and 947 00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:12,480 okay with the idea 948 00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:14,000 i mean they came out and admitted last 949 00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:16,240 year the actual us government came out 950 00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:17,440 and said yeah 951 00:32:20,389 --> 00:32:18,880 we've got these these you know these 952 00:32:22,789 --> 00:32:20,399 other you know all the worldly 953 00:32:24,549 --> 00:32:22,799 spacecrafts and and they were one step 954 00:32:26,549 --> 00:32:24,559 short of saying the aliens you know the 955 00:32:28,230 --> 00:32:26,559 actual beings as it were and some have 956 00:32:29,830 --> 00:32:28,240 said and read and interpreted and i will 957 00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:29,840 leave that to their own experts to cover 958 00:32:32,230 --> 00:32:30,960 that saying that yeah they've come out 959 00:32:34,230 --> 00:32:32,240 and said they're real 960 00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:34,240 so and nobody really bad deny so what 961 00:32:37,669 --> 00:32:35,200 are your thoughts on that was that 962 00:32:39,190 --> 00:32:37,679 partially due to the hollywood 963 00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:39,200 push on this over the years or was that 964 00:32:42,310 --> 00:32:41,039 just that we have too much crap going on 965 00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:42,320 and we don't have time to deal with 966 00:32:45,269 --> 00:32:43,840 aliens 967 00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:45,279 i don't 968 00:32:49,269 --> 00:32:47,600 we do have to we do have a lot of crap 969 00:32:52,789 --> 00:32:49,279 going on 970 00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:52,799 world and it's kind of 971 00:32:57,990 --> 00:32:56,480 terminal turmeric turbulence 972 00:33:00,070 --> 00:32:58,000 at this time 973 00:33:03,509 --> 00:33:00,080 and uh it's interesting you know that we 974 00:33:05,509 --> 00:33:03,519 do have like this how this ufo or uap 975 00:33:08,549 --> 00:33:05,519 thing is kind of taken off too during 976 00:33:11,029 --> 00:33:08,559 this tumultuous time 977 00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:11,039 as far as like defense research and also 978 00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:13,440 interest seem either more people are 979 00:33:17,269 --> 00:33:15,600 outside talking about it or this is more 980 00:33:20,070 --> 00:33:17,279 interest than i've noticed 981 00:33:21,350 --> 00:33:20,080 like ever ever in the topic 982 00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:21,360 yeah 983 00:33:24,389 --> 00:33:23,279 uh let's see really quick lewis has a 984 00:33:26,230 --> 00:33:24,399 question if you guys do have a question 985 00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:26,240 tonight please put them in caps uh if 986 00:33:28,870 --> 00:33:27,360 you can you get a chance that would help 987 00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:28,880 me out quite a bit but quick question 988 00:33:33,190 --> 00:33:30,960 willie what about us capturing aliens 989 00:33:35,590 --> 00:33:33,200 like they abduct us okay so you're 990 00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:35,600 asking your question to jess being do we 991 00:33:38,149 --> 00:33:36,960 capture aliens if that's not the 992 00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:38,159 question let me know but jess what do 993 00:33:41,110 --> 00:33:39,360 you think about that 994 00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:41,120 i don't know maybe we do we've done 995 00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:43,279 worse stuff to people 996 00:33:47,509 --> 00:33:45,120 very very true we 997 00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:47,519 we have done some pretty bad stuff too 998 00:33:51,909 --> 00:33:49,279 we've done pretty bad stuff 999 00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:51,919 to humans to our own people and to 1000 00:33:56,389 --> 00:33:54,240 peoples of other countries and other 1001 00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:56,399 people do bad things to each other 1002 00:33:58,789 --> 00:33:57,200 yeah 1003 00:34:00,230 --> 00:33:58,799 uh 1004 00:34:01,590 --> 00:34:00,240 wayne over here with the michigan ufo 1005 00:34:03,430 --> 00:34:01,600 fight sightings and paranormal 1006 00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:03,440 encounters podcast he mentions this the 1007 00:34:08,550 --> 00:34:06,000 one x-file episode that predicted nine 1008 00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:08,560 one one that is creepy 1009 00:34:13,669 --> 00:34:10,560 yes did not know about that actually so 1010 00:34:16,310 --> 00:34:13,679 that's the news to me that's interesting 1011 00:34:18,470 --> 00:34:16,320 yeah i did a 911 episode uh the week 1012 00:34:20,470 --> 00:34:18,480 before 9 11 and we talked about that 1013 00:34:22,230 --> 00:34:20,480 episode and some other like things that 1014 00:34:25,669 --> 00:34:22,240 were kind of predictive programming for 1015 00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:26,710 yeah 1016 00:34:30,310 --> 00:34:28,560 man oh man that's the one that's like it 1017 00:34:32,069 --> 00:34:30,320 sucks we'd have to be like you'd have to 1018 00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:32,079 come over to our podcast one of my 1019 00:34:34,149 --> 00:34:33,200 brother and i do like we can do that 1020 00:34:35,750 --> 00:34:34,159 over there i don't know if i can do that 1021 00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:35,760 for them here they probably for sure for 1022 00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:36,960 sure 1023 00:34:41,190 --> 00:34:39,599 hang out with us we can do that 1024 00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:41,200 but you are right on the fact that i 1025 00:34:44,389 --> 00:34:42,960 mean that's not something that's made up 1026 00:34:45,990 --> 00:34:44,399 that's something that's tangible we can 1027 00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:46,000 point you and say well that did happen 1028 00:34:51,030 --> 00:34:49,440 and there was some hints or ideas that 1029 00:34:53,270 --> 00:34:51,040 led up to that and 1030 00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:53,280 that's where people get i think where do 1031 00:34:55,909 --> 00:34:54,800 you draw the line yourself because you 1032 00:34:57,270 --> 00:34:55,919 labeled yourself you said listen 1033 00:34:58,950 --> 00:34:57,280 conspiracy theories is right at the top 1034 00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:58,960 of your list how do you approach a 1035 00:35:02,710 --> 00:35:01,040 conspiracy theory what is your process 1036 00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:02,720 so as to not get too lost and entangled 1037 00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:04,560 in it as a it's hard 1038 00:35:08,390 --> 00:35:06,480 it's hard it's very difficult because 1039 00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:08,400 you get down these rabbit holes and then 1040 00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:10,160 if you stay down there too long then 1041 00:35:13,430 --> 00:35:11,520 it'll start to 1042 00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:13,440 kind of affect the way you start to 1043 00:35:17,910 --> 00:35:15,280 think so you have to pull yourself back 1044 00:35:20,630 --> 00:35:17,920 out and be very objective and look at 1045 00:35:23,430 --> 00:35:20,640 things from many different angles 1046 00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:23,440 you know because like i'm i'm i'm very 1047 00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:26,000 much into you know like worldwide kind 1048 00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:28,240 of government stuff things like that 1049 00:35:32,710 --> 00:35:30,400 control systems and because it's like 1050 00:35:35,670 --> 00:35:32,720 it's not fake it's it's it's there and 1051 00:35:37,030 --> 00:35:35,680 it's real and there's a lot to dig into 1052 00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:37,040 yeah 1053 00:35:42,710 --> 00:35:41,280 way that educates people in the in a 1054 00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:42,720 proper manner versus you know it can be 1055 00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:44,240 very easy i don't know i won't say this 1056 00:35:47,990 --> 00:35:45,760 for yourself but i know myself i've 1057 00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:48,000 confined myself sometimes if i'm not 1058 00:35:50,550 --> 00:35:49,200 careful 1059 00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:50,560 going too hard on it you're almost 1060 00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:52,800 scaring people versus attracting them to 1061 00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:54,160 it you know what what do we do that way 1062 00:35:56,950 --> 00:35:55,440 to actually make them interested in 1063 00:35:59,030 --> 00:35:56,960 looking in 1064 00:36:01,190 --> 00:35:59,040 in a manner this helps 1065 00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:01,200 i think the way i try to approach things 1066 00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:03,920 is it's like i try to when i do talk 1067 00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:05,760 about these things because for a long 1068 00:36:09,430 --> 00:36:06,720 time 1069 00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:09,440 uh honestly i was scared to really 1070 00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:11,280 broadcast and talk about these things 1071 00:36:14,230 --> 00:36:12,800 because i wanted to approach it in the 1072 00:36:17,270 --> 00:36:14,240 correct way 1073 00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:17,280 you know i don't want to be like 1074 00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:19,200 ah there's like 1075 00:36:27,910 --> 00:36:22,320 alligator people or you know something 1076 00:36:30,790 --> 00:36:29,430 who knows 1077 00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:30,800 jess is like no wait a second don't get 1078 00:36:35,670 --> 00:36:33,119 me started don't get me started on 1079 00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:35,680 alligator people but no there's you know 1080 00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:37,680 you have to be careful too and i you 1081 00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:39,359 know there was like the q i don't know 1082 00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:41,200 there was the whole q a on thing and 1083 00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:42,960 like so for a long time i was like you 1084 00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:44,320 know jess why don't you just stay away 1085 00:36:48,390 --> 00:36:46,160 from that for a little bit and let that 1086 00:36:50,069 --> 00:36:48,400 kind of die down and then you can come 1087 00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:50,079 back out and 1088 00:36:54,150 --> 00:36:51,599 and talk about these things but it's 1089 00:36:56,790 --> 00:36:54,160 talking about these things from like a 1090 00:36:58,630 --> 00:36:56,800 research perspective and talking about 1091 00:37:01,109 --> 00:36:58,640 both sides of it you know because you 1092 00:37:02,630 --> 00:37:01,119 see you know what's being done and what 1093 00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:02,640 the trick is to really look at the 1094 00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:04,240 bigger picture 1095 00:37:07,510 --> 00:37:05,200 you know 1096 00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:07,520 and see like well what are these moves 1097 00:37:12,470 --> 00:37:09,359 that are going on why are they making 1098 00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:12,480 these moves you know mm-hmm 1099 00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:15,440 and um yeah just i could keep going but 1100 00:37:19,190 --> 00:37:17,680 yeah i go no it's the same i mean keep 1101 00:37:20,150 --> 00:37:19,200 going i mean this is what you do i guess 1102 00:37:21,190 --> 00:37:20,160 that's one of the reasons i wanted to 1103 00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:21,200 bring in is you know a lot of people 1104 00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:22,640 always say they're like one of the 1105 00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:24,000 excuses that you know the common thing 1106 00:37:26,710 --> 00:37:25,359 we hear anytime somebody brings up a 1107 00:37:27,910 --> 00:37:26,720 conspiracy theory or any of that stuff 1108 00:37:30,069 --> 00:37:27,920 is like oh would you do your research 1109 00:37:32,550 --> 00:37:30,079 youtube and it's like well let's we have 1110 00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:32,560 someone who's a journalistic uh 1111 00:37:35,829 --> 00:37:34,800 you know uh researchers so i should say 1112 00:37:37,910 --> 00:37:35,839 i shouldn't say researcher a 1113 00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:37,920 journalistic reporter so what i just 1114 00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:39,520 like hearing your process on it is it 1115 00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:41,040 any different than any of us that are 1116 00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:43,440 out there trying to learn the truth 1117 00:37:47,430 --> 00:37:45,760 i don't think it's any different i think 1118 00:37:49,589 --> 00:37:47,440 you know you can't 1119 00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:49,599 take some do you know like even me even 1120 00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:51,520 if i'm on youtube like you can't take 1121 00:37:55,430 --> 00:37:53,200 everything i'm saying as gold i don't 1122 00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:55,440 know i mean we're just people too but 1123 00:37:59,030 --> 00:37:57,119 what i'm bringing together is the 1124 00:38:01,190 --> 00:37:59,040 research that i found and what i'm 1125 00:38:03,829 --> 00:38:01,200 talking about and i look for you know 1126 00:38:05,829 --> 00:38:03,839 academics i look for you know scientists 1127 00:38:08,230 --> 00:38:05,839 i think for people 1128 00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:08,240 that you know are saying the same thing 1129 00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:10,800 you know or people in these fields um 1130 00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:12,640 you know i'm not just saying like oh 1131 00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:14,400 this is so because i watched it in a 1132 00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:16,560 youtube video or i saw it on reddit you 1133 00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:18,480 know you have to take it a step further 1134 00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:20,320 and you have to start looking into it 1135 00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:22,560 like i saw some red okay i was on reddit 1136 00:38:25,589 --> 00:38:24,160 today you know and there's ridiculous 1137 00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:25,599 posts and you just 1138 00:38:29,670 --> 00:38:28,320 it's just a screenshot and you go and 1139 00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:29,680 you're like okay well i'm gonna find 1140 00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:31,119 this story that all these people are 1141 00:38:34,550 --> 00:38:32,800 harping on 1142 00:38:37,030 --> 00:38:34,560 all right there is no story that's just 1143 00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:37,040 a screenshot of some bs it's not real 1144 00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:38,720 and then it's already angered all these 1145 00:38:43,109 --> 00:38:41,280 people that's what it was supposed to do 1146 00:38:45,270 --> 00:38:43,119 so you know also what i like to do is 1147 00:38:47,910 --> 00:38:45,280 try to teach people like what i've 1148 00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:47,920 learned and filter out the bs and you 1149 00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:48,800 know 1150 00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:51,200 i talk a lot about the media too because 1151 00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:52,480 you know it's like 1152 00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:54,320 it's not just like mainstream media 1153 00:38:58,950 --> 00:38:57,040 we're dealing with social media too 1154 00:39:01,190 --> 00:38:58,960 very true 1155 00:39:02,390 --> 00:39:01,200 yeah you know there's a i guess so like 1156 00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:02,400 let's bring up this question let's bring 1157 00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:03,520 up this one since louis put in the 1158 00:39:07,589 --> 00:39:05,920 question he he says do aliens harvest us 1159 00:39:09,270 --> 00:39:07,599 like we do animals here on earth so 1160 00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:09,280 there's a big question that people bring 1161 00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:10,480 up if they're coming into the alien 1162 00:39:12,829 --> 00:39:11,440 topic 1163 00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:12,839 i think i 1164 00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:17,040 understand i mean it's highly possible 1165 00:39:21,510 --> 00:39:18,240 i mean 1166 00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:21,520 with you know they say they pick up the 1167 00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:23,760 the goat not the goats the cows you know 1168 00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:24,720 they do 1169 00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:27,760 they say that you know um 1170 00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:29,440 i mean but if you take it just let's 1171 00:39:33,990 --> 00:39:31,440 just take it from like oh how could it 1172 00:39:35,589 --> 00:39:34,000 be possibly right so 1173 00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:35,599 we 1174 00:39:50,790 --> 00:39:48,560 and you know and um 1175 00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:50,800 if there's another species though maybe 1176 00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:52,000 they believe they're more intelligent 1177 00:39:57,109 --> 00:39:54,240 than us or at least 1178 00:39:59,109 --> 00:39:57,119 you know they're to look at humans 1179 00:40:00,630 --> 00:39:59,119 as an animal yeah 1180 00:40:02,390 --> 00:40:00,640 yeah i've also brought that up to you 1181 00:40:03,750 --> 00:40:02,400 know anybody who's um an outdoor you 1182 00:40:06,309 --> 00:40:03,760 know a lot of outdoorsmen and stuff 1183 00:40:08,309 --> 00:40:06,319 which i they have a most outdoors men 1184 00:40:10,309 --> 00:40:08,319 have a lot of respect for nature right 1185 00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:10,319 believe it or not yes contrary to 1186 00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:12,240 hollywood's interpretation of them they 1187 00:40:17,589 --> 00:40:14,480 usually have a lot of respect for um 1188 00:40:19,510 --> 00:40:17,599 you know the wilderness and animals and 1189 00:40:21,109 --> 00:40:19,520 but some of them still hold that sense 1190 00:40:23,109 --> 00:40:21,119 of like you know it's kind of a it's a 1191 00:40:25,829 --> 00:40:23,119 dumb animal you know and it's just doing 1192 00:40:28,470 --> 00:40:25,839 its thing not saying all of them but 1193 00:40:31,109 --> 00:40:28,480 i can see how the debate comes down to 1194 00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:31,119 consciousness right what separates why 1195 00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:33,839 are you more important than a dolphin 1196 00:40:37,510 --> 00:40:35,760 that's incredibly intelligent or a chimp 1197 00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:37,520 that's incredibly intelligent or 1198 00:40:40,710 --> 00:40:39,359 whatever the species might be i'm out in 1199 00:40:42,630 --> 00:40:40,720 line that you know they're so elusive 1200 00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:42,640 black panthers any of these things and 1201 00:40:45,510 --> 00:40:44,160 it just seems to be 1202 00:40:46,870 --> 00:40:45,520 the lack that we can't communicate with 1203 00:40:48,470 --> 00:40:46,880 them because even if you could go out 1204 00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:48,480 and talk with like a really dumb chicken 1205 00:40:51,430 --> 00:40:50,000 chickens aren't that smart that one i 1206 00:40:53,190 --> 00:40:51,440 can say that one 1207 00:40:54,790 --> 00:40:53,200 but if you could talk to them and they 1208 00:40:57,510 --> 00:40:54,800 could talk even like a couple words back 1209 00:41:00,470 --> 00:40:57,520 to you all of a sudden they would be on 1210 00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:00,480 that next rung of the evolutionary chain 1211 00:41:04,150 --> 00:41:02,640 i feel so sometimes always wonder if we 1212 00:41:05,349 --> 00:41:04,160 are being taken 1213 00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:05,359 and everybody's got different opinions 1214 00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:06,960 on this as far as how they communicate 1215 00:41:10,309 --> 00:41:08,800 is it just a communication thing is that 1216 00:41:11,990 --> 00:41:10,319 all it is that we're 1217 00:41:14,069 --> 00:41:12,000 we have a lack of that so it's it's 1218 00:41:15,910 --> 00:41:14,079 creating a divide 1219 00:41:17,349 --> 00:41:15,920 i don't know 1220 00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:17,359 no idea 1221 00:41:21,109 --> 00:41:19,680 i don't know man oh no that's okay i 1222 00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:21,119 just was curious if he had an opinion i 1223 00:41:24,630 --> 00:41:22,960 mean you know like uh another question 1224 00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:24,640 that um let's see black jack and i 1225 00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:25,760 brought this one up because this is this 1226 00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:27,280 is one's more tangible i guess we could 1227 00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:28,640 say we could 1228 00:41:33,030 --> 00:41:31,040 yeah oh i lost it where'd it go 1229 00:41:34,870 --> 00:41:33,040 i'm gonna find it i promise i seen it up 1230 00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:34,880 here all right right here so he was 1231 00:41:37,910 --> 00:41:35,760 saying 1232 00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:37,920 like human trafficking it is worldwide 1233 00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:39,359 but is it all connected so that's a 1234 00:41:41,670 --> 00:41:40,720 tangible thing that we can point to and 1235 00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:41,680 say yeah maybe we don't have all the 1236 00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:43,520 evidence but we know 1237 00:41:47,829 --> 00:41:45,680 something's up yeah 1238 00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:47,839 so do you how do you relate that in the 1239 00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:49,200 same manner i guess when you're working 1240 00:41:53,510 --> 00:41:51,599 on things that aren't proven yet 1241 00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:53,520 is it just a conspiracy theory to me 1242 00:41:57,430 --> 00:41:55,440 that's just the hypothesis hypothesis 1243 00:41:58,790 --> 00:41:57,440 it's just kind of a hype it's yeah 1244 00:42:00,390 --> 00:41:58,800 you're working on it you're putting 1245 00:42:02,710 --> 00:42:00,400 things together but 1246 00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:02,720 you know the longer you're kind of 1247 00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:04,480 entrenched in this 1248 00:42:10,550 --> 00:42:06,160 research and looking at other people's 1249 00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:10,560 research and things you know came to be 1250 00:42:14,069 --> 00:42:12,240 that you know were discussed in the 1251 00:42:17,670 --> 00:42:14,079 conspiracy theorist community and you're 1252 00:42:18,550 --> 00:42:17,680 like oh well crap 1253 00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:18,560 yeah 1254 00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:20,640 you know what i mean 1255 00:42:24,470 --> 00:42:22,240 and it seems like it always leads in 1256 00:42:27,109 --> 00:42:24,480 that next you never i feel like never 1257 00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:27,119 gets to the bottom of anything because 1258 00:42:31,349 --> 00:42:29,680 it always it's it's so entangled like 1259 00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:31,359 it's that negative thing that's like oh 1260 00:42:35,589 --> 00:42:33,040 it's a spiderweb 1261 00:42:37,990 --> 00:42:35,599 it's a huge spider huge massive 1262 00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:38,000 spiderweb you know and we're just like 1263 00:42:42,790 --> 00:42:40,640 little tiny dots within their spiderweb 1264 00:42:44,950 --> 00:42:42,800 man it's 1265 00:42:46,390 --> 00:42:44,960 it's it's nuts and then it makes you 1266 00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:46,400 feel really small and then it makes me 1267 00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:48,240 go you know i'm just going to go back to 1268 00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:50,319 reading about or podcasting for a minute 1269 00:42:54,550 --> 00:42:52,880 and not think about like the whole big 1270 00:42:57,670 --> 00:42:54,560 thing you know 1271 00:42:59,670 --> 00:42:57,680 uh i love the so we have jess rogon here 1272 00:43:01,670 --> 00:42:59,680 right from the rogue report guys and i 1273 00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:01,680 love that rolling over from last night's 1274 00:43:05,589 --> 00:43:04,319 after party and the after after party 1275 00:43:06,790 --> 00:43:05,599 speaking of that you guys this is where 1276 00:43:09,510 --> 00:43:06,800 you can catch jess 1277 00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:09,520 we have the great debate going on about 1278 00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:11,599 santa claus not being real and it was 1279 00:43:14,710 --> 00:43:13,280 made as a joke and a comment but the 1280 00:43:16,710 --> 00:43:14,720 people are really going back and forth 1281 00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:16,720 on this and we would joke because i i 1282 00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:17,839 laid the question out to somebody that 1283 00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:19,920 and i said if you think about it 1284 00:43:22,150 --> 00:43:21,280 and joe and ben hit on this on the show 1285 00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:22,160 before 1286 00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:24,640 it's the first conspiracy theory that 1287 00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:27,119 turns out to be true in in in almost all 1288 00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:28,720 individuals lives 1289 00:43:31,270 --> 00:43:29,760 and 1290 00:43:32,950 --> 00:43:31,280 i my parents never raised me with the 1291 00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:32,960 idea that santa was real 1292 00:43:37,510 --> 00:43:35,200 so i had that uni i think it's hard it 1293 00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:37,520 was they were maybe i swear yeah they 1294 00:43:40,630 --> 00:43:39,440 were like nah that's not a thing man um 1295 00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:40,640 we were raised in a really large 1296 00:43:43,670 --> 00:43:42,000 religious household so that wasn't a 1297 00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:43,680 thing but i had these cousins we're all 1298 00:43:47,990 --> 00:43:45,359 the same age pretty close to it who 1299 00:43:49,109 --> 00:43:48,000 totally did we're writing letters 1300 00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:49,119 and so you start to get to that age 1301 00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:50,400 where i'm like alright i'm ten they're 1302 00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:51,760 like eight or nine i'm like starting 1303 00:43:55,190 --> 00:43:53,200 like man i feel like i should like i 1304 00:43:57,109 --> 00:43:55,200 gotta free my brothers right so i'm like 1305 00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:57,119 handing out the idea and i remember the 1306 00:43:59,990 --> 00:43:58,640 one conversation in particular it was 1307 00:44:01,589 --> 00:44:00,000 the idea of like they were saying 1308 00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:01,599 they're like no way that he's not real 1309 00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:02,800 this is before you could just google 1310 00:44:06,630 --> 00:44:04,319 everything right like we had to struggle 1311 00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:06,640 okay guys there was a process you had to 1312 00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:08,000 sacrifice two animals to get to the 1313 00:44:12,470 --> 00:44:10,079 internet connection it was amazing you 1314 00:44:13,829 --> 00:44:12,480 had the sunfire gods would come down and 1315 00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:13,839 make a connection for you and there's 1316 00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:16,640 lots of screeching but anyways 1317 00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:18,720 we were talking and he was like my mom 1318 00:44:22,230 --> 00:44:20,800 my dad would be lying to me your mom and 1319 00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:22,240 dad my aunt and uncle right grandma and 1320 00:44:26,069 --> 00:44:24,560 grandpa my teacher these books i've been 1321 00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:26,079 reading these shows i've been watching 1322 00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:27,760 on tv they'd all be lying to me and i 1323 00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:29,359 was like you know as a kid it was 1324 00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:31,200 whatever but as an adult i'm like 1325 00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:33,599 wow that was totally real though that 1326 00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:36,240 was really happening to that poor kid so 1327 00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:37,920 what are your thoughts on that i guess 1328 00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:38,880 if if 1329 00:44:42,069 --> 00:44:40,319 santa's not real and some people are 1330 00:44:43,510 --> 00:44:42,079 really upset about this they're still 1331 00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:43,520 figuring this out i guess in the chat 1332 00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:44,319 here 1333 00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:46,480 oh man now we have i am santa smith 1334 00:44:50,069 --> 00:44:48,400 because around here i am chad smith is a 1335 00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:50,079 pretty big deal now it's i am santa's 1336 00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:51,760 awesome sansa 1337 00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:53,119 what what was your relationship with 1338 00:44:56,630 --> 00:44:55,920 that what did you do 1339 00:44:59,430 --> 00:44:56,640 so 1340 00:45:01,670 --> 00:44:59,440 um my mom is from vietnam and my dad is 1341 00:45:03,750 --> 00:45:01,680 american right oh heck yeah and mike and 1342 00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:03,760 all my cousins i grew up with like 1343 00:45:06,150 --> 00:45:04,960 they're both their parents were 1344 00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:06,160 vietnamese 1345 00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:08,400 okay right okay 1346 00:45:13,589 --> 00:45:10,319 so when i found out they didn't get 1347 00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:13,599 anything from santa and my mom and my 1348 00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:15,839 gifts from santa were under the 1349 00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:17,599 christmas tree at the same time as the 1350 00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:20,400 rest of the gifts in the same wrapping 1351 00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:21,760 paper mom 1352 00:45:26,309 --> 00:45:24,400 and it has the same my mom's writing but 1353 00:45:28,390 --> 00:45:26,319 it says from santa bless her heart but 1354 00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:28,400 you know they didn't have santa and then 1355 00:45:31,750 --> 00:45:30,160 my dad was like you know you just i 1356 00:45:34,309 --> 00:45:31,760 don't think he was like clear about like 1357 00:45:36,550 --> 00:45:34,319 you put the santa gifts out aft for 1358 00:45:38,309 --> 00:45:36,560 after christmas eve 1359 00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:38,319 or when you put the cookies out this was 1360 00:45:41,349 --> 00:45:40,319 all very quick felt figured out very 1361 00:45:43,670 --> 00:45:41,359 quick 1362 00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:43,680 you know um put out the cookies oh my 1363 00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:45,200 dad didn't eat them so they're still 1364 00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:46,720 sitting there in the morning like the 1365 00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:48,400 three cookies the milk like there's the 1366 00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:49,760 film 1367 00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:51,680 and i was like oh 1368 00:45:55,270 --> 00:45:53,440 so no this whole thing that thing got 1369 00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:55,280 unraveled quickly 1370 00:46:00,630 --> 00:45:58,079 i was in school and second or third 1371 00:46:03,430 --> 00:46:00,640 grade and this girl goes santa's real 1372 00:46:07,349 --> 00:46:05,829 dwight you know what i'm like 1373 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:07,359 i was like ain't nobody coming down your 1374 00:46:09,829 --> 00:46:07,930 chimney 1375 00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:09,839 [Laughter] 1376 00:46:14,790 --> 00:46:12,880 she's like no i seen him and i was like 1377 00:46:15,910 --> 00:46:14,800 you're telling me a dude came down your 1378 00:46:18,069 --> 00:46:15,920 chimney 1379 00:46:20,069 --> 00:46:18,079 and then dropped gifts off i mean in a 1380 00:46:22,309 --> 00:46:20,079 much nicer like second grade year old 1381 00:46:23,349 --> 00:46:22,319 way you know but right of course but 1382 00:46:25,510 --> 00:46:23,359 then 1383 00:46:29,190 --> 00:46:25,520 but she's like no i saw his energy come 1384 00:46:31,349 --> 00:46:29,200 and drop off the gifts and i was like 1385 00:46:33,910 --> 00:46:31,359 all right and i just and that was it i 1386 00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:33,920 just dropped it you know we we all knew 1387 00:46:37,910 --> 00:46:36,240 like there was no santa you know from 1388 00:46:39,190 --> 00:46:37,920 very early 1389 00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:39,200 yep 1390 00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:42,240 and i remember the one time too um this 1391 00:46:45,589 --> 00:46:43,520 is a great answer by jim by the way 1392 00:46:47,990 --> 00:46:45,599 santa equals parent's love 1393 00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:48,000 but my mom tried mom tried and i 1394 00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:49,680 appreciate it but i knew there was no 1395 00:46:56,309 --> 00:46:51,920 man 1396 00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:56,319 i love that uh wayne over here is like 1397 00:47:01,430 --> 00:46:58,079 if santa ain't real then you have to ask 1398 00:47:04,069 --> 00:47:01,440 what is real hmm and you know this great 1399 00:47:05,990 --> 00:47:04,079 lord the mythology behind the original 1400 00:47:07,589 --> 00:47:06,000 who probably was the real santa that 1401 00:47:09,190 --> 00:47:07,599 story is fascinating you should look 1402 00:47:10,230 --> 00:47:09,200 that right like 1403 00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:10,240 i almost feel like that should be like 1404 00:47:12,710 --> 00:47:11,520 when the kid when they finally figured 1405 00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:12,720 out as a parent i'm gonna do with my 1406 00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:14,480 kids because my wife's really on it she 1407 00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:15,680 okay she 1408 00:47:19,589 --> 00:47:17,280 she grew up with that 1409 00:47:22,069 --> 00:47:19,599 the magic of santa okay 1410 00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:22,079 i didn't but i'm doing it i haven't if 1411 00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:24,000 my kid directly asked me i don't know i 1412 00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:25,040 think i've told her i've kind of hit it 1413 00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:26,319 i'm like i'm not gonna like i'm not 1414 00:47:29,670 --> 00:47:27,440 gonna 1415 00:47:31,910 --> 00:47:29,680 i'm not lying but i'm also like i know 1416 00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:31,920 i'm assisting in this the scheme because 1417 00:47:34,150 --> 00:47:32,960 like the total thing you were talking 1418 00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:34,160 about like the cookies and make sure i 1419 00:47:37,510 --> 00:47:35,680 didn't quite eat all the cookies you 1420 00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:37,520 have to like make it look like yeah you 1421 00:47:42,790 --> 00:47:39,119 gotta like make it look like you took a 1422 00:47:45,349 --> 00:47:42,800 bite and like still leave some milk 1423 00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:45,359 yeah we and he gets so excited you know 1424 00:47:49,270 --> 00:47:46,720 and like they're at an age like i said i 1425 00:47:51,349 --> 00:47:49,280 mentioned he's five three and adorable 1426 00:47:52,950 --> 00:47:51,359 two or whatever so yeah it's a fun time 1427 00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:52,960 for them and the world is just 1428 00:47:56,630 --> 00:47:54,240 magical 1429 00:47:58,630 --> 00:47:56,640 um you can have santa yeah and i don't 1430 00:48:00,790 --> 00:47:58,640 think embrace anybody but it is funny 1431 00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:00,800 that when some people bring up that idea 1432 00:48:05,190 --> 00:48:03,040 bringing it back to stuff like ufos or 1433 00:48:07,109 --> 00:48:05,200 you know mk ultra and all those other 1434 00:48:08,790 --> 00:48:07,119 things that we know are fact now those 1435 00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:08,800 are release documents yeah 1436 00:48:11,589 --> 00:48:10,400 but when you bring back them like man 1437 00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:11,599 how many people would have to be in on 1438 00:48:15,510 --> 00:48:12,960 this and you're like 1439 00:48:17,349 --> 00:48:15,520 when you were a kid this was happening 1440 00:48:19,349 --> 00:48:17,359 how many people 1441 00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:19,359 it's the same thing but like i i could 1442 00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:21,200 someone in the chat mention like you 1443 00:48:24,870 --> 00:48:22,800 know there's the then it carries on to 1444 00:48:26,630 --> 00:48:24,880 well easter bunny and tooth fairy oh 1445 00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:26,640 tooth fairy 1446 00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:29,520 i heard on tv they they and i taught i 1447 00:48:32,390 --> 00:48:30,800 confirmed this with other kids i was 1448 00:48:33,910 --> 00:48:32,400 like hey 1449 00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:33,920 the tooth fairy comes to your house do 1450 00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:35,839 they take your tooth like it and like 1451 00:48:38,309 --> 00:48:37,280 leave you like a dollar or something 1452 00:48:41,510 --> 00:48:38,319 they're like yeah they always take your 1453 00:48:43,750 --> 00:48:41,520 tooth that's why they're the tooth fairy 1454 00:48:48,309 --> 00:48:43,760 my tooth was always still there 1455 00:48:52,870 --> 00:48:50,710 i love my parents bless my parents i 1456 00:48:54,630 --> 00:48:52,880 bless them for doing it but it was like 1457 00:48:55,750 --> 00:48:54,640 i don't think they knew the full 1458 00:48:57,270 --> 00:48:55,760 lore 1459 00:48:59,910 --> 00:48:57,280 yeah 1460 00:49:01,030 --> 00:48:59,920 it's funny um my kid just he came to us 1461 00:49:02,309 --> 00:49:01,040 and started talking about tooth fairy 1462 00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:02,319 and again that was something that wasn't 1463 00:49:04,630 --> 00:49:03,520 a thing for us we knew our parents were 1464 00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:04,640 giving us money 1465 00:49:07,589 --> 00:49:06,480 and he was like yeah he started laying 1466 00:49:08,950 --> 00:49:07,599 out this whole story about there's this 1467 00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:08,960 castle and there's gonna be candy 1468 00:49:11,589 --> 00:49:10,079 associated with he was telling me this 1469 00:49:12,710 --> 00:49:11,599 whole story and i've never read him this 1470 00:49:14,630 --> 00:49:12,720 book on this i've never seen him watch a 1471 00:49:15,910 --> 00:49:14,640 cartoon on this and so i was like 1472 00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:15,920 waiting my wife was out of the time and 1473 00:49:18,950 --> 00:49:17,280 i waited she came back i was like hey 1474 00:49:20,230 --> 00:49:18,960 babe i was like is there like a story 1475 00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:20,240 about the tooth fairy that i don't know 1476 00:49:23,589 --> 00:49:22,079 and i had her tell him and even she was 1477 00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:23,599 like i don't know what that i don't know 1478 00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:24,960 what that is either but we were both 1479 00:49:28,710 --> 00:49:26,480 like hmm that's interesting yep that 1480 00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:28,720 could be we're like taking notes like i 1481 00:49:33,430 --> 00:49:30,400 guess this is what we got to do now i 1482 00:49:36,549 --> 00:49:34,870 oh man 1483 00:49:37,829 --> 00:49:36,559 yeah the krampus though that is you know 1484 00:49:38,870 --> 00:49:37,839 that's the funny the balance of all 1485 00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:38,880 things right you have the good and you 1486 00:49:43,589 --> 00:49:40,720 got the evil but yeah i believe that's 1487 00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:43,599 german lore right yeah i i interviewed a 1488 00:49:48,390 --> 00:49:46,240 krampus on a podcast years ago like a 1489 00:49:50,470 --> 00:49:48,400 professional krampus yes 1490 00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:50,480 nice it's kind of cool like he dressed 1491 00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:53,040 as a krampus and he made a christmas 1492 00:49:58,309 --> 00:49:55,920 album with a duo it was a krampus 1493 00:50:01,349 --> 00:49:58,319 christmas album 1494 00:50:02,870 --> 00:50:01,359 very interesting so krampus carols 1495 00:50:03,990 --> 00:50:02,880 very nice and you just like went out and 1496 00:50:05,589 --> 00:50:04,000 like threatened people at the door was 1497 00:50:07,349 --> 00:50:05,599 like threat was it like death thrash 1498 00:50:09,670 --> 00:50:07,359 metal or like how did 1499 00:50:11,750 --> 00:50:09,680 no it was like 1500 00:50:13,349 --> 00:50:11,760 no the [\h__\h] you would think right but no 1501 00:50:15,589 --> 00:50:13,359 i think it was very like kind of 1502 00:50:17,670 --> 00:50:15,599 traditional sounding carols done in the 1503 00:50:20,470 --> 00:50:17,680 style like where had been the lyrics 1504 00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:20,480 have been changed to like krampus carol 1505 00:50:27,750 --> 00:50:25,910 okay so just just changing up the 1506 00:50:30,150 --> 00:50:27,760 terminology i guess along the way yeah 1507 00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:30,160 changing it and adapting it to uh 1508 00:50:34,069 --> 00:50:32,240 krampus carols yeah tammy you're not 1509 00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:34,079 wrong either about the elf thing i we 1510 00:50:37,430 --> 00:50:35,200 did that for the first time fully 1511 00:50:38,950 --> 00:50:37,440 committed to that last year and 1512 00:50:42,230 --> 00:50:38,960 yeah well 1513 00:50:46,549 --> 00:50:42,240 uh we did we did but man was he on it 1514 00:50:47,910 --> 00:50:46,559 every day he he's elf he brought himself 1515 00:50:49,670 --> 00:50:47,920 some good points though i was like man 1516 00:50:51,190 --> 00:50:49,680 he's bringing up good points like a 1517 00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:51,200 weekend when it finally was moving every 1518 00:50:55,750 --> 00:50:53,440 day right and he started talking he's 1519 00:50:57,430 --> 00:50:55,760 not even five at the time he's like 1520 00:50:59,109 --> 00:50:57,440 so why don't this like why is she not 1521 00:51:00,309 --> 00:50:59,119 moving during the day like why is she 1522 00:51:01,190 --> 00:51:00,319 just sitting like all right there's a 1523 00:51:02,470 --> 00:51:01,200 whole book that comes with this so you 1524 00:51:03,829 --> 00:51:02,480 sit down you read it in the book about 1525 00:51:05,030 --> 00:51:03,839 the rules and you can't touch and all 1526 00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:05,040 this stuff 1527 00:51:08,549 --> 00:51:06,240 oh sorry go ahead 1528 00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:08,559 where does his like soul go during the 1529 00:51:12,390 --> 00:51:10,960 day or like what happens yeah also 1530 00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:12,400 during the day they sit there all day 1531 00:51:15,589 --> 00:51:14,400 they're watching for santa so this elf 1532 00:51:17,510 --> 00:51:15,599 sits wherever in the house that we 1533 00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:17,520 position it and it watches them all day 1534 00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:19,680 and it leaves at night when you go to 1535 00:51:23,349 --> 00:51:21,599 bed reports to santa and it's going to 1536 00:51:25,030 --> 00:51:23,359 be a new spot hiding during the day so 1537 00:51:27,510 --> 00:51:25,040 every night you have to move this thing 1538 00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:27,520 to a new position a new thing and but he 1539 00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:29,599 started asking he was like 1540 00:51:32,470 --> 00:51:31,440 why doesn't it move it was his first 1541 00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:32,480 question and then the second question 1542 00:51:36,549 --> 00:51:34,640 which was relevant was like why does she 1543 00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:36,559 stay here why is she watching us like is 1544 00:51:39,750 --> 00:51:38,400 that he wanted to know why she was i was 1545 00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:39,760 like you know that's for your question 1546 00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:41,520 i'm not even gonna you know but i we 1547 00:51:44,069 --> 00:51:42,720 blew it off we're like i don't know 1548 00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:44,079 we'll see what happens tomorrow but yeah 1549 00:51:47,990 --> 00:51:45,920 the elf on the shelf thing 1550 00:51:49,430 --> 00:51:48,000 it's it's that's more commitment i think 1551 00:51:52,630 --> 00:51:49,440 and it's it's a 1552 00:51:55,270 --> 00:51:52,640 just as much of a lie for sure we're 100 1553 00:51:57,190 --> 00:51:55,280 contributing to it but jim you bring up 1554 00:51:59,430 --> 00:51:57,200 a good point sorry go ahead 1555 00:52:01,510 --> 00:51:59,440 no i was gonna say it's like this whole 1556 00:52:03,829 --> 00:52:01,520 thing where it's like it's teaching the 1557 00:52:05,349 --> 00:52:03,839 children surveillance the elf is 1558 00:52:06,549 --> 00:52:05,359 watching you and they're going to report 1559 00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:06,559 you 1560 00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:11,200 gifts it's it's kind of strange and that 1561 00:52:14,390 --> 00:52:12,640 says i don't have children i'm sure it 1562 00:52:16,069 --> 00:52:14,400 works great but it's like the 1563 00:52:19,910 --> 00:52:16,079 surveillancy thing where i'm like oh 1564 00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:19,920 it's kind of interesting mm-hmm 1565 00:52:23,829 --> 00:52:21,680 yup i love that 1566 00:52:25,750 --> 00:52:23,839 no one puts elf on a shelf come at me 1567 00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:25,760 bro yeah i tell you what you have to get 1568 00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:27,040 creative because you start running out 1569 00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:30,160 of places uh it's a place yeah 1570 00:52:33,030 --> 00:52:31,440 i'm jess i'm thinking this must be one 1571 00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:33,040 of your listeners welcome to the garage 1572 00:52:36,150 --> 00:52:34,240 welcome to the van we're out taking a 1573 00:52:37,510 --> 00:52:36,160 spin hanging with jess you know perhaps 1574 00:52:40,309 --> 00:52:37,520 just offline 1575 00:52:41,430 --> 00:52:40,319 either okay well welcome welcome 1576 00:52:42,950 --> 00:52:41,440 we're just talking about all kinds of 1577 00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:42,960 stuff in here tonight right now we ended 1578 00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:44,160 up on santa i'm not sure how that 1579 00:52:49,589 --> 00:52:47,040 happened um but really quick then let's 1580 00:52:50,549 --> 00:52:49,599 bring it back to uh really tangible 1581 00:52:51,750 --> 00:52:50,559 uh 1582 00:52:53,270 --> 00:52:51,760 credible i guess you could say 1583 00:52:55,510 --> 00:52:53,280 conspiracy theories and again i i have 1584 00:52:56,870 --> 00:52:55,520 trouble with that word because 1585 00:52:58,309 --> 00:52:56,880 i think if you start to find enough 1586 00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:58,319 evidence it's no longer conspiracy 1587 00:53:02,230 --> 00:53:00,000 theory you're just working on a 1588 00:53:04,630 --> 00:53:02,240 hypothesis that hasn't have every dot 1589 00:53:05,910 --> 00:53:04,640 connected yet so you can have it 95 1590 00:53:07,349 --> 00:53:05,920 there and people will still for whatever 1591 00:53:10,549 --> 00:53:07,359 reason hold that five percent be like 1592 00:53:12,710 --> 00:53:10,559 you're wrong and i just don't get it 1593 00:53:15,270 --> 00:53:12,720 so what is your opinion on 1594 00:53:18,069 --> 00:53:15,280 i guess the idea of bringing a 1595 00:53:19,190 --> 00:53:18,079 conspiracy together that what let's do 1596 00:53:20,309 --> 00:53:19,200 this what's some of your favorite let's 1597 00:53:22,390 --> 00:53:20,319 do like some of jess's favorite 1598 00:53:24,870 --> 00:53:22,400 conspiracies that are true or you're 1599 00:53:28,309 --> 00:53:24,880 still working on i just think it's hard 1600 00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:28,319 when you're saying true or not true you 1601 00:53:31,990 --> 00:53:30,000 know a lot of the ones that i really you 1602 00:53:33,990 --> 00:53:32,000 know i'm fascinated with is just like 1603 00:53:36,069 --> 00:53:34,000 the control systems and the way the 1604 00:53:37,349 --> 00:53:36,079 governments work together 1605 00:53:40,710 --> 00:53:37,359 and you know 1606 00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:42,950 these movements in the background you 1607 00:53:47,109 --> 00:53:45,200 know and i think because i do look at so 1608 00:53:50,390 --> 00:53:47,119 much news too i look at everything and 1609 00:53:52,150 --> 00:53:50,400 see how things are moving and um 1610 00:53:54,150 --> 00:53:52,160 it's like there's not like i could can't 1611 00:53:56,710 --> 00:53:54,160 say like my favorite conspiracy because 1612 00:53:59,030 --> 00:53:56,720 i don't think any of them are positive 1613 00:54:03,430 --> 00:53:59,040 things it's not a positive word 1614 00:54:07,430 --> 00:54:04,790 um 1615 00:54:10,390 --> 00:54:07,440 but like i don't have a favorite one 1616 00:54:12,069 --> 00:54:10,400 like right now i'm i'm very 1617 00:54:13,750 --> 00:54:12,079 i'm looking at doing a lot of media 1618 00:54:16,230 --> 00:54:13,760 stuff and i'm doing a lot of my getting 1619 00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:16,240 into a lot of mind control stuff 1620 00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:18,240 propaganda lately 1621 00:54:21,829 --> 00:54:19,359 um 1622 00:54:23,270 --> 00:54:21,839 so that's kind of where i am right now 1623 00:54:25,190 --> 00:54:23,280 um 1624 00:54:27,190 --> 00:54:25,200 just how these things can because the 1625 00:54:29,349 --> 00:54:27,200 most powerful thing is really somebody's 1626 00:54:31,430 --> 00:54:29,359 thoughts and their beliefs and 1627 00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:31,440 how so controlling somebody's thoughts 1628 00:54:34,390 --> 00:54:32,880 and beliefs 1629 00:54:37,589 --> 00:54:34,400 i figured that was kind of the big 1630 00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:37,599 conspiracy you know how they mm-hmm 1631 00:54:41,750 --> 00:54:40,079 how we're so divided too because you 1632 00:54:43,109 --> 00:54:41,760 know part of the thing is to divide 1633 00:54:46,309 --> 00:54:43,119 people because people together are 1634 00:54:48,069 --> 00:54:46,319 stronger and um yeah so that's my thing 1635 00:54:49,990 --> 00:54:48,079 it's like going back and looking at how 1636 00:54:52,150 --> 00:54:50,000 all this stuff was set up 1637 00:54:55,030 --> 00:54:52,160 and you know how we're living with these 1638 00:54:57,670 --> 00:54:55,040 things like 100 years later you know and 1639 00:54:59,510 --> 00:54:57,680 now or even longer you know the u.s 1640 00:55:00,630 --> 00:54:59,520 hasn't been around that long 1641 00:55:04,150 --> 00:55:00,640 and the grand scheme of things where 1642 00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:04,160 you're a micro blip on the screen uh jme 1643 00:55:07,829 --> 00:55:05,440 patton thank you very much that super 1644 00:55:09,510 --> 00:55:07,839 chat also very nice numerology there for 1645 00:55:11,829 --> 00:55:09,520 his question for you jess what are your 1646 00:55:13,510 --> 00:55:11,839 thoughts on the new world order rfid 1647 00:55:16,630 --> 00:55:13,520 microchipping mark of the beast and that 1648 00:55:17,750 --> 00:55:16,640 kind of thing man you're going hard 1649 00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:17,760 questions 1650 00:55:21,750 --> 00:55:19,680 it's kind of crazy because the other day 1651 00:55:24,069 --> 00:55:21,760 i was going through twitter and um you 1652 00:55:26,710 --> 00:55:24,079 know there's a lot going on in um like 1653 00:55:29,430 --> 00:55:26,720 say australia and there was there was a 1654 00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:29,440 doctor and another um politician that 1655 00:55:33,589 --> 00:55:31,920 used the words new world order when you 1656 00:55:35,430 --> 00:55:33,599 know talking about how things were going 1657 00:55:38,630 --> 00:55:35,440 to be moving forward 1658 00:55:41,990 --> 00:55:38,640 this vernacular is coming out and being 1659 00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:42,000 spoken by these people now you know and 1660 00:55:45,670 --> 00:55:43,280 what you know you think what does new 1661 00:55:49,430 --> 00:55:45,680 world order mean you know it's the new 1662 00:55:54,069 --> 00:55:51,510 and you know and you want to talk about 1663 00:55:56,069 --> 00:55:54,079 microchipping and people you know and 1664 00:55:57,750 --> 00:55:56,079 there's two schools of thoughts on this 1665 00:55:59,829 --> 00:55:57,760 there's you know some people 1666 00:56:01,430 --> 00:55:59,839 are being some people are 1667 00:56:03,270 --> 00:56:01,440 wanting to get microchipped and then 1668 00:56:05,510 --> 00:56:03,280 they can scan into their office 1669 00:56:08,390 --> 00:56:05,520 buildings or log into their computers 1670 00:56:10,309 --> 00:56:08,400 you know but also you know 1671 00:56:12,549 --> 00:56:10,319 there's these nowadays too they don't 1672 00:56:14,230 --> 00:56:12,559 really need 100 1673 00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:14,240 do they really yeah we don't really need 1674 00:56:18,789 --> 00:56:15,520 that and so there's a lot of 1675 00:56:21,670 --> 00:56:18,799 surveillance going on with that too so 1676 00:56:23,190 --> 00:56:21,680 the um mark of the beast thing oh thank 1677 00:56:26,230 --> 00:56:23,200 you 1678 00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:26,240 i love steven grier's flare first of all 1679 00:56:30,630 --> 00:56:28,960 great name it's just i know he's it's 1680 00:56:33,430 --> 00:56:30,640 it's like i know exactly what that is 1681 00:56:35,349 --> 00:56:33,440 you know i know 1682 00:56:36,549 --> 00:56:35,359 oh man 1683 00:56:38,630 --> 00:56:36,559 but um 1684 00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:38,640 yeah no but the mark of the beast thing 1685 00:56:41,349 --> 00:56:40,240 i feel like 1686 00:56:43,510 --> 00:56:41,359 really 1687 00:56:45,270 --> 00:56:43,520 okay in china already right now right 1688 00:56:46,789 --> 00:56:45,280 they want to move into their own digital 1689 00:56:48,870 --> 00:56:46,799 currency you know 1690 00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:48,880 and what they're wanting to work on too 1691 00:56:53,750 --> 00:56:51,520 is all your currency is on this right so 1692 00:56:55,349 --> 00:56:53,760 it's all on your phone and then so say 1693 00:56:56,870 --> 00:56:55,359 you do something that causes you to 1694 00:56:58,710 --> 00:56:56,880 break a chinese 1695 00:57:00,870 --> 00:56:58,720 law and then they find you and then 1696 00:57:04,950 --> 00:57:00,880 guess what comes directly out of your 1697 00:57:07,349 --> 00:57:04,960 phone boom paid social credits [\h__\h] it 1698 00:57:09,190 --> 00:57:07,359 it's already happening it's like it's 1699 00:57:11,270 --> 00:57:09,200 it's this this stuff isn't quite how 1700 00:57:12,789 --> 00:57:11,280 they said it was gonna be but you know 1701 00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:12,799 the movement i don't know if it's good 1702 00:57:17,910 --> 00:57:14,880 or bad but there is the movement towards 1703 00:57:18,789 --> 00:57:17,920 you know these digital currencies now 1704 00:57:23,030 --> 00:57:18,799 yeah 1705 00:57:23,990 --> 00:57:23,040 whole system if it took over 1706 00:57:26,549 --> 00:57:24,000 correct 1707 00:57:27,990 --> 00:57:26,559 yeah i you know and uh like right here 1708 00:57:28,950 --> 00:57:28,000 uh wayne's mentioned i can't pop up 1709 00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:28,960 because i'll replace the one that was 1710 00:57:31,750 --> 00:57:30,480 ways back that i have on the screen but 1711 00:57:34,390 --> 00:57:31,760 he mentioned you know the whole the the 1712 00:57:35,670 --> 00:57:34,400 great reset right and with the digital 1713 00:57:36,710 --> 00:57:35,680 currency what's amazing like my 1714 00:57:38,069 --> 00:57:36,720 brother's really big enough he's a 1715 00:57:39,030 --> 00:57:38,079 crypto trader he trades all the time day 1716 00:57:41,670 --> 00:57:39,040 trading 1717 00:57:44,150 --> 00:57:41,680 and it could be the greatest thing ever 1718 00:57:45,589 --> 00:57:44,160 if it's left alone free market true free 1719 00:57:47,190 --> 00:57:45,599 market enterprise 1720 00:57:50,309 --> 00:57:47,200 it's amazing it is a peer-to-peer 1721 00:57:51,750 --> 00:57:50,319 trading source that is it removes all 1722 00:57:53,270 --> 00:57:51,760 the extra bull crap you don't need 1723 00:57:55,349 --> 00:57:53,280 banking system of federal and blah blah 1724 00:57:56,710 --> 00:57:55,359 to get their cut and it's just you and i 1725 00:57:58,710 --> 00:57:56,720 and that's all it is it's the same if i 1726 00:58:00,789 --> 00:57:58,720 handed you 25 bucks and they never knew 1727 00:58:02,630 --> 00:58:00,799 about it it's that and there's a reason 1728 00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:02,640 why the federal government attacked the 1729 00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:04,480 cryptocurrencies so hard over the past 1730 00:58:07,750 --> 00:58:06,160 two years tried to sync them still 1731 00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:07,760 trying to sync them and then came out in 1732 00:58:13,109 --> 00:58:10,319 2020 was like guys 1733 00:58:14,549 --> 00:58:13,119 we have a federal cryptocurrency let's 1734 00:58:16,390 --> 00:58:14,559 go 1735 00:58:18,789 --> 00:58:16,400 let's just try to just like 1736 00:58:20,230 --> 00:58:18,799 what are you doing so i mean and i think 1737 00:58:21,349 --> 00:58:20,240 if that happens i am generally concerned 1738 00:58:24,069 --> 00:58:21,359 about that because that like you're 1739 00:58:25,030 --> 00:58:24,079 saying it's gonna be we already see some 1740 00:58:27,190 --> 00:58:25,040 of the other stuff i don't know how it 1741 00:58:29,510 --> 00:58:27,200 is where you live but where i live 1742 00:58:32,309 --> 00:58:29,520 there's a lot of the stores will only 1743 00:58:36,069 --> 00:58:32,319 accept exact cash if cash yes and it's 1744 00:58:37,990 --> 00:58:36,079 very 50 50 depending 1745 00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:38,000 major big name people don't accept it 1746 00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:40,720 has to be card so yeah no it's i'm 1747 00:58:43,829 --> 00:58:42,000 starting to see that too where they're 1748 00:58:45,430 --> 00:58:43,839 like they're like oh cash no you gotta 1749 00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:45,440 have a card 1750 00:58:50,069 --> 00:58:48,400 gonna have the rfid chip on your card 1751 00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:50,079 you know 1752 00:58:53,670 --> 00:58:51,839 near field paying 1753 00:58:55,270 --> 00:58:53,680 you know i just i feel so uncomfortable 1754 00:58:56,870 --> 00:58:55,280 with that family because somebody you 1755 00:58:58,710 --> 00:58:56,880 know like 1756 00:59:00,950 --> 00:58:58,720 you only have to be so close before 1757 00:59:04,069 --> 00:59:00,960 somebody can like probably 1758 00:59:05,670 --> 00:59:04,079 access your information mm-hmm 1759 00:59:06,549 --> 00:59:05,680 yeah that's the other thing too is that 1760 00:59:08,230 --> 00:59:06,559 yeah 1761 00:59:10,390 --> 00:59:08,240 and again i you know i suppose when we 1762 00:59:11,910 --> 00:59:10,400 when i i am sure we sound like our 1763 00:59:13,349 --> 00:59:11,920 grandparents uh right when they first 1764 00:59:15,829 --> 00:59:13,359 started bringing out checks or credit 1765 00:59:19,190 --> 00:59:15,839 cards like what probably what 1766 00:59:20,870 --> 00:59:19,200 how do you pay with the card yeah i'm 1767 00:59:22,950 --> 00:59:20,880 not writing my information on a piece of 1768 00:59:25,270 --> 00:59:22,960 paper and carrying around with me 1769 00:59:27,270 --> 00:59:25,280 um i i get that like i said 1770 00:59:29,430 --> 00:59:27,280 to me i always look at everything it's 1771 00:59:30,950 --> 00:59:29,440 just the tool any others bottled water 1772 00:59:32,710 --> 00:59:30,960 it's just a bottle of water right but 1773 00:59:35,190 --> 00:59:32,720 then all it is is it's a tool it's how i 1774 00:59:37,510 --> 00:59:35,200 utilize that so it's all and how it's 1775 00:59:39,270 --> 00:59:37,520 applied and the rules and regulations 1776 00:59:41,270 --> 00:59:39,280 they you know apply to it and i think 1777 00:59:43,190 --> 00:59:41,280 that if it's done right and left alone i 1778 00:59:45,190 --> 00:59:43,200 don't think that the digital 1779 00:59:47,109 --> 00:59:45,200 cryptocurrency stuff for digital crypto 1780 00:59:48,069 --> 00:59:47,119 or currency is bad 1781 00:59:52,069 --> 00:59:48,079 but 1782 00:59:53,510 --> 00:59:52,079 i'm pretty anti like i'm very 1783 00:59:55,109 --> 00:59:53,520 free i like people to be a free 1784 00:59:57,270 --> 00:59:55,119 individual as possible and i think the 1785 00:59:59,109 --> 00:59:57,280 government just gets way too involved 1786 01:00:01,030 --> 00:59:59,119 the federal government in particular 1787 01:00:03,030 --> 01:00:01,040 when it comes to our cash and our assets 1788 01:00:06,789 --> 01:00:03,040 then it's just it's a it's a trigger 1789 01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:06,799 subject for me so i usually i can see 1790 01:00:10,630 --> 01:00:09,200 but real quick just i don't go too far 1791 01:00:11,829 --> 01:00:10,640 back and forget about it wayne was 1792 01:00:13,270 --> 01:00:11,839 asking and we're switching gears 1793 01:00:14,789 --> 01:00:13,280 slightly here we'll get back to it but 1794 01:00:16,150 --> 01:00:14,799 what about fairies or the fade do you 1795 01:00:18,630 --> 01:00:16,160 have any did just have any opinions 1796 01:00:21,750 --> 01:00:18,640 about that um you know as for one of my 1797 01:00:24,549 --> 01:00:21,760 favorite books is passports to magonia 1798 01:00:27,109 --> 01:00:24,559 by um jack valet and he talks about the 1799 01:00:28,710 --> 01:00:27,119 fairy and the fae and he talks about how 1800 01:00:30,789 --> 01:00:28,720 you know a lot of these folklores and 1801 01:00:33,030 --> 01:00:30,799 stories are possibly you know most 1802 01:00:35,190 --> 01:00:33,040 likely talking about the same things 1803 01:00:38,150 --> 01:00:35,200 people are experiencing today and we 1804 01:00:40,150 --> 01:00:38,160 call them ufos or alien abductions but 1805 01:00:41,829 --> 01:00:40,160 you know in those time in other times in 1806 01:00:43,829 --> 01:00:41,839 other cultures they have different names 1807 01:00:44,630 --> 01:00:43,839 for them 1808 01:00:47,750 --> 01:00:44,640 right 1809 01:00:49,270 --> 01:00:47,760 yeah i i think i don't know i remember 1810 01:00:50,710 --> 01:00:49,280 as a kid you know because like i 1811 01:00:51,910 --> 01:00:50,720 mentioned we you know being raised 1812 01:00:53,190 --> 01:00:51,920 really religious and stuff we'd read the 1813 01:00:54,470 --> 01:00:53,200 bible and all this stuff would be and 1814 01:00:55,430 --> 01:00:54,480 there's a lot mentioned in the bible and 1815 01:00:56,789 --> 01:00:55,440 i'm not saying this only answered 1816 01:00:58,150 --> 01:00:56,799 anything is whatever you believe and 1817 01:01:00,309 --> 01:00:58,160 where you go for that that's on you and 1818 01:01:02,069 --> 01:01:00,319 that's great but it's so funny that 1819 01:01:04,150 --> 01:01:02,079 people get hung up i knew certain you 1820 01:01:05,670 --> 01:01:04,160 know christians that were like very the 1821 01:01:06,950 --> 01:01:05,680 world's six thousand years old that's it 1822 01:01:09,910 --> 01:01:06,960 man there's no dinosaurs there's none of 1823 01:01:11,270 --> 01:01:09,920 this stuff it doesn't exist you know and 1824 01:01:13,270 --> 01:01:11,280 in the bible itself it talks about the 1825 01:01:15,109 --> 01:01:13,280 leviathan it talks about a unicorn it 1826 01:01:17,030 --> 01:01:15,119 talks about dragons like it this stuff's 1827 01:01:18,390 --> 01:01:17,040 in there it's it's in the you know 1828 01:01:19,430 --> 01:01:18,400 and it's just funny that people get so 1829 01:01:20,710 --> 01:01:19,440 hung up on it but i remember i used to 1830 01:01:23,109 --> 01:01:20,720 ask my dad like where did that stuff 1831 01:01:25,109 --> 01:01:23,119 come from like sanitars or just these 1832 01:01:28,150 --> 01:01:25,119 titans and stuff like is this all just 1833 01:01:29,910 --> 01:01:28,160 for folklore or did something once exist 1834 01:01:31,829 --> 01:01:29,920 that's just been passed down 1835 01:01:33,670 --> 01:01:31,839 through our i guess word of mouth as it 1836 01:01:35,829 --> 01:01:33,680 were sure it's probably mutilated and 1837 01:01:37,030 --> 01:01:35,839 twisted but man it had to have come from 1838 01:01:39,270 --> 01:01:37,040 something so what are your thoughts on 1839 01:01:41,510 --> 01:01:39,280 that do you think that there used to be 1840 01:01:43,030 --> 01:01:41,520 this idea you know like 1841 01:01:44,789 --> 01:01:43,040 i guess the lord of the rings kind of 1842 01:01:47,109 --> 01:01:44,799 ideas it were or any of the great movies 1843 01:01:48,549 --> 01:01:47,119 that we you know 1844 01:01:50,069 --> 01:01:48,559 what's oh man what's the what's the most 1845 01:01:52,710 --> 01:01:50,079 famous one that ended so badly i can't 1846 01:01:55,190 --> 01:01:52,720 even talk about it oh god what was it 1847 01:01:59,510 --> 01:01:55,200 game of thrones no 1848 01:02:06,390 --> 01:02:02,950 i just felt like i invested so much time 1849 01:02:07,349 --> 01:02:06,400 into that to be so let down it was so 1850 01:02:09,829 --> 01:02:07,359 bad 1851 01:02:11,670 --> 01:02:09,839 it was like the white walkers are coming 1852 01:02:13,589 --> 01:02:11,680 oh yeah man the [\h__\h] white walkers 1853 01:02:15,510 --> 01:02:13,599 are going to be here yes there's going 1854 01:02:23,349 --> 01:02:15,520 to be some um 1855 01:02:27,990 --> 01:02:25,430 oh do you want to see like 1856 01:02:30,549 --> 01:02:28,000 browns and blacks with like these little 1857 01:02:32,630 --> 01:02:30,559 like torches and you're like 1858 01:02:34,870 --> 01:02:32,640 people are dying i think i hear yelling 1859 01:02:36,789 --> 01:02:34,880 i can hear you there's like clashing you 1860 01:02:38,630 --> 01:02:36,799 know you're like oh maybe a horse fell i 1861 01:02:39,670 --> 01:02:38,640 don't know 1862 01:02:41,430 --> 01:02:39,680 like being 1863 01:02:42,309 --> 01:02:41,440 wasted at a rave party you're not sure 1864 01:02:44,390 --> 01:02:42,319 what's going on you're like there's a 1865 01:02:48,069 --> 01:02:44,400 lot of lights i hear sounds yeah just no 1866 01:02:49,349 --> 01:02:48,079 lights something's happening 1867 01:02:51,109 --> 01:02:49,359 oh man 1868 01:02:53,270 --> 01:02:51,119 uh yeah so someone said here this is 1869 01:02:54,950 --> 01:02:53,280 interesting champ campbell welcome first 1870 01:02:57,029 --> 01:02:54,960 of all uh they say i'm sure dinosaur 1871 01:02:58,390 --> 01:02:57,039 bones were mistaken dragons so jess what 1872 01:03:00,950 --> 01:02:58,400 do you think yes 1873 01:03:02,870 --> 01:03:00,960 yes dinosaur bones were probably you 1874 01:03:04,950 --> 01:03:02,880 know what people thought were dragons 1875 01:03:07,190 --> 01:03:04,960 you know they used in chinese medicine 1876 01:03:09,349 --> 01:03:07,200 they'd say they had dragon bone you know 1877 01:03:10,950 --> 01:03:09,359 but it was probably dinosaur bones you 1878 01:03:12,069 --> 01:03:10,960 know what i mean 1879 01:03:13,430 --> 01:03:12,079 you know because 1880 01:03:15,910 --> 01:03:13,440 you know we 1881 01:03:18,390 --> 01:03:15,920 we're people and you know humans are 1882 01:03:20,710 --> 01:03:18,400 they they they make up stories you know 1883 01:03:22,470 --> 01:03:20,720 like 1884 01:03:24,309 --> 01:03:22,480 and as we go forward you know we know 1885 01:03:26,549 --> 01:03:24,319 like sometimes the stories the first 1886 01:03:28,870 --> 01:03:26,559 thoughts or theories were wrong and then 1887 01:03:31,670 --> 01:03:28,880 we move on and we find out okay this is 1888 01:03:34,069 --> 01:03:31,680 why this is you know 1889 01:03:36,069 --> 01:03:34,079 so true uh t was saying biggest 1890 01:03:38,710 --> 01:03:36,079 disappointment since lost here's the 1891 01:03:40,069 --> 01:03:38,720 thing i've started lost like four times 1892 01:03:42,309 --> 01:03:40,079 and i always make it to the fourth 1893 01:03:43,670 --> 01:03:42,319 season and i never get any further and i 1894 01:03:45,430 --> 01:03:43,680 just want to do it to be disappointed 1895 01:03:46,390 --> 01:03:45,440 with all of you guys i know it ends bad 1896 01:03:47,589 --> 01:03:46,400 i just 1897 01:03:48,470 --> 01:03:47,599 i i 1898 01:03:52,789 --> 01:03:48,480 can't 1899 01:03:54,230 --> 01:03:52,799 and everybody's like the ending sucks so 1900 01:03:56,789 --> 01:03:54,240 i was like why am i going to spend my 1901 01:03:58,390 --> 01:03:56,799 time and you willy you not only like 1902 01:04:00,870 --> 01:03:58,400 well you've done it three times you got 1903 01:04:02,390 --> 01:04:00,880 to season four if you just did it one 1904 01:04:03,910 --> 01:04:02,400 time through you probably would have 1905 01:04:05,910 --> 01:04:03,920 been done you probably watched more 1906 01:04:08,549 --> 01:04:05,920 episodes than there are of lost at this 1907 01:04:11,510 --> 01:04:08,559 point listen i love the first three 1908 01:04:13,670 --> 01:04:11,520 seasons of lost are great 1909 01:04:16,309 --> 01:04:13,680 they were so good far as the concept at 1910 01:04:18,390 --> 01:04:16,319 least it was it was great 1911 01:04:20,150 --> 01:04:18,400 for tele television it was great 1912 01:04:22,390 --> 01:04:20,160 storytelling like there's one that just 1913 01:04:24,630 --> 01:04:22,400 came out recently um that i started 1914 01:04:25,829 --> 01:04:24,640 watching oh what's it called 1915 01:04:26,950 --> 01:04:25,839 like brum 1916 01:04:29,029 --> 01:04:26,960 or something like that it's the big 1917 01:04:31,190 --> 01:04:29,039 giant hole in uh la that opens up 1918 01:04:33,510 --> 01:04:31,200 there's a giant sinkhole and they sink 1919 01:04:35,349 --> 01:04:33,520 down i think it's called a brew or 1920 01:04:37,750 --> 01:04:35,359 something what how come i haven't heard 1921 01:04:39,430 --> 01:04:37,760 of this it just looks like a brew i 1922 01:04:41,109 --> 01:04:39,440 think it's like brew or like i'm 1923 01:04:44,710 --> 01:04:41,119 murdering the name here but it just came 1924 01:04:45,750 --> 01:04:44,720 out this past tuesday on nbc i think it 1925 01:04:47,670 --> 01:04:45,760 was 1926 01:04:48,789 --> 01:04:47,680 and i it the premise of the story is 1927 01:04:51,910 --> 01:04:48,799 great 1928 01:04:53,750 --> 01:04:51,920 the acting is subpar-ish you know 1929 01:04:54,789 --> 01:04:53,760 i have a feeling it's gonna it's gonna i 1930 01:04:56,390 --> 01:04:54,799 have a feeling this could be one of 1931 01:04:58,789 --> 01:04:56,400 those ones again where you're like oh my 1932 01:05:00,470 --> 01:04:58,799 god this is a great foundation and then 1933 01:05:01,910 --> 01:05:00,480 it'll be like how can we screw it up 1934 01:05:03,349 --> 01:05:01,920 it's like they start too strong and they 1935 01:05:06,069 --> 01:05:03,359 can't finish i don't i don't know it 1936 01:05:07,349 --> 01:05:06,079 happens so much often with these shows 1937 01:05:09,270 --> 01:05:07,359 because what it's hitting on is like the 1938 01:05:11,190 --> 01:05:09,280 whole inner earth thing like they fall 1939 01:05:13,990 --> 01:05:11,200 and also there's like dinosaurs there's 1940 01:05:15,589 --> 01:05:14,000 like well that's cool like yeah uh the 1941 01:05:17,109 --> 01:05:15,599 crustacean period i think or something 1942 01:05:19,190 --> 01:05:17,119 along those lines so i i don't know 1943 01:05:20,470 --> 01:05:19,200 we'll see what happens um 1944 01:05:21,750 --> 01:05:20,480 really quick though because i'll miss 1945 01:05:23,190 --> 01:05:21,760 him as the chat's moving along man we're 1946 01:05:24,230 --> 01:05:23,200 just jumping subject to subject tonight 1947 01:05:27,029 --> 01:05:24,240 louis 1948 01:05:28,230 --> 01:05:27,039 what's up brother wants to know 1949 01:05:29,750 --> 01:05:28,240 jess 1950 01:05:31,029 --> 01:05:29,760 what are the greys you just need to have 1951 01:05:33,670 --> 01:05:31,039 all the answers tonight for us jess you 1952 01:05:35,510 --> 01:05:33,680 need to oh my god i'm not i'm not like 1953 01:05:37,670 --> 01:05:35,520 an authority on this because there's 1954 01:05:40,390 --> 01:05:37,680 several theories about greys you know 1955 01:05:43,109 --> 01:05:40,400 and i have never met one 1956 01:05:46,230 --> 01:05:43,119 some people think they're like 1957 01:05:49,829 --> 01:05:46,240 kind of like clones or like robotic kind 1958 01:05:52,230 --> 01:05:49,839 of beings like biological 1959 01:05:54,950 --> 01:05:52,240 that are clones that do the work or 1960 01:05:56,710 --> 01:05:54,960 something and then some people say that 1961 01:05:59,190 --> 01:05:56,720 you know 1962 01:06:01,750 --> 01:05:59,200 they might be their own race or their 1963 01:06:03,109 --> 01:06:01,760 part or they hang out with another race 1964 01:06:05,029 --> 01:06:03,119 um 1965 01:06:06,870 --> 01:06:05,039 you know they could be 1966 01:06:08,630 --> 01:06:06,880 something that people talked about back 1967 01:06:10,870 --> 01:06:08,640 in the day with the you know like the 1968 01:06:11,910 --> 01:06:10,880 fey type stories as well you know what i 1969 01:06:14,069 --> 01:06:11,920 mean 1970 01:06:16,829 --> 01:06:14,079 so or it could be something that's also 1971 01:06:19,829 --> 01:06:16,839 just always here 1972 01:06:22,309 --> 01:06:19,839 right uh maybe there's one behind you 1973 01:06:24,549 --> 01:06:22,319 now you wouldn't even know no lewis he's 1974 01:06:28,950 --> 01:06:24,559 there with you uh thank you by the way 1975 01:06:32,470 --> 01:06:31,109 yeah i had the name wrong so that's the 1976 01:06:34,230 --> 01:06:32,480 name of the show 1977 01:06:36,390 --> 01:06:34,240 and like i said i'm i'm not holding my 1978 01:06:37,670 --> 01:06:36,400 breath okay it's it's loca it's it is 1979 01:06:39,589 --> 01:06:37,680 what it is 1980 01:06:41,510 --> 01:06:39,599 the clearly the budget for like some of 1981 01:06:43,510 --> 01:06:41,520 the digital stuff isn't there but the 1982 01:06:44,230 --> 01:06:43,520 premise of the story lines got me roped 1983 01:06:46,069 --> 01:06:44,240 in 1984 01:06:48,309 --> 01:06:46,079 yeah i'm at least there for it i'm a 1985 01:06:50,309 --> 01:06:48,319 sucker for a great grade c movie tv 1986 01:06:51,829 --> 01:06:50,319 shows i love them yeah there was one 1987 01:06:53,589 --> 01:06:51,839 back in the day honestly if you remember 1988 01:06:54,630 --> 01:06:53,599 this one it was called um 1989 01:06:56,870 --> 01:06:54,640 oh i really thought the name was just 1990 01:06:59,349 --> 01:06:56,880 gonna come to me and it didn't so 1991 01:07:00,789 --> 01:06:59,359 um oh god what was it was he was like a 1992 01:07:03,029 --> 01:07:00,799 sheriff that went to this town it's like 1993 01:07:04,710 --> 01:07:03,039 2012. he goes to this town and 1994 01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:04,720 everything's like super advanced he ends 1995 01:07:07,990 --> 01:07:06,240 up becoming the sheriff of this town and 1996 01:07:10,950 --> 01:07:08,000 everything's um 1997 01:07:12,710 --> 01:07:10,960 oh my gosh it's gonna drive me nuts now 1998 01:07:14,950 --> 01:07:12,720 that i don't remember this okay he's a 1999 01:07:16,309 --> 01:07:14,960 sheriff he's a sheriff and he's like a 2000 01:07:17,670 --> 01:07:16,319 daughter and everything in the town is 2001 01:07:19,430 --> 01:07:17,680 super advanced technology essentially 2002 01:07:23,029 --> 01:07:19,440 we'll see him in the chat notes okay 2003 01:07:25,270 --> 01:07:23,039 super advanced technology sheriff 2004 01:07:27,510 --> 01:07:25,280 oh my gosh it's like one word eureka 2005 01:07:28,390 --> 01:07:27,520 thank you jim thank you it was called 2006 01:07:32,870 --> 01:07:28,400 guys 2007 01:07:36,069 --> 01:07:32,880 yes eureka was one that like it sucked 2008 01:07:37,990 --> 01:07:36,079 me in you know like i in the the server 2009 01:07:39,510 --> 01:07:38,000 that it was on dropped it another one 2010 01:07:41,589 --> 01:07:39,520 would be um 2011 01:07:43,829 --> 01:07:41,599 warehouse 13. that was another one it 2012 01:07:46,390 --> 01:07:43,839 was like i didn't watch that one seemed 2013 01:07:48,390 --> 01:07:46,400 like a kind of a fun one though yeah 2014 01:07:50,150 --> 01:07:48,400 because it hits on the idea that 2015 01:07:51,349 --> 01:07:50,160 kind of you could say like you know like 2016 01:07:52,950 --> 01:07:51,359 the catholic church has like everything 2017 01:07:54,549 --> 01:07:52,960 down in their their their secret pits 2018 01:07:56,390 --> 01:07:54,559 where they have all this stuff all these 2019 01:07:58,390 --> 01:07:56,400 knowledge similar to that but like 2020 01:07:59,910 --> 01:07:58,400 there's the us government that like area 2021 01:08:01,510 --> 01:07:59,920 51 is a joke everybody knows about so 2022 01:08:03,190 --> 01:08:01,520 like warehouse 13 is where it's at and 2023 01:08:05,029 --> 01:08:03,200 there's this every episode there's this 2024 01:08:07,750 --> 01:08:05,039 thing they got to solve and it gets 2025 01:08:09,190 --> 01:08:07,760 stored in this massive warehouse so 2026 01:08:10,630 --> 01:08:09,200 but it got canceled apparently it wasn't 2027 01:08:12,069 --> 01:08:10,640 doing good enough and i just don't know 2028 01:08:13,430 --> 01:08:12,079 why those shows get cancelled because 2029 01:08:15,270 --> 01:08:13,440 like i get they're not great acting and 2030 01:08:17,110 --> 01:08:15,280 they're not bringing in money but man 2031 01:08:18,870 --> 01:08:17,120 they they like tickle my inner nerds so 2032 01:08:21,910 --> 01:08:18,880 much i don't know why yeah 2033 01:08:24,789 --> 01:08:21,920 they're fun and you know it's 2034 01:08:26,709 --> 01:08:24,799 does sci-fi make many shows anymore like 2035 01:08:28,229 --> 01:08:26,719 i i don't know i don't have sci-fi 2036 01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:28,239 channel anymore 2037 01:08:31,669 --> 01:08:30,880 um sci-fi so the great a good one that's 2038 01:08:33,189 --> 01:08:31,679 on there right now would be worth 2039 01:08:34,149 --> 01:08:33,199 checking out maybe um jane would want to 2040 01:08:35,349 --> 01:08:34,159 cover it i'm sure you probably already 2041 01:08:36,149 --> 01:08:35,359 have i haven't gone through all your 2042 01:08:38,390 --> 01:08:36,159 stuff 2043 01:08:40,390 --> 01:08:38,400 but the resident alien is a good one i 2044 01:08:42,390 --> 01:08:40,400 want to watch it so bad that's something 2045 01:08:43,910 --> 01:08:42,400 i've been wanting to watch yeah 2046 01:08:45,749 --> 01:08:43,920 i would say check that one out another 2047 01:08:48,149 --> 01:08:45,759 one i've been really big on lately too 2048 01:08:52,070 --> 01:08:48,159 if you have uh disney plus is 2049 01:08:54,550 --> 01:08:52,080 loki because it's love loki 2050 01:08:55,430 --> 01:08:54,560 i did an episode on loki a few months 2051 01:08:57,510 --> 01:08:55,440 back 2052 01:08:58,709 --> 01:08:57,520 so good that show so that's i guess 2053 01:08:59,910 --> 01:08:58,719 that's what i'm hitting at when i say 2054 01:09:01,590 --> 01:08:59,920 that you know for years and years and 2055 01:09:02,950 --> 01:09:01,600 years they hid in it they were hinting 2056 01:09:04,630 --> 01:09:02,960 at the idea of secret government 2057 01:09:07,189 --> 01:09:04,640 agencies and aliens 2058 01:09:09,030 --> 01:09:07,199 now the big push everything you know you 2059 01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:09,040 look at like um stranger things what's 2060 01:09:12,709 --> 01:09:10,239 it all dealing with yeah with this 2061 01:09:14,709 --> 01:09:12,719 multiverse this convicts inter 2062 01:09:17,510 --> 01:09:14,719 dimensional beings and 2063 01:09:19,030 --> 01:09:17,520 i just feel like that's the next thing 2064 01:09:20,550 --> 01:09:19,040 you know like when louisano comes out 2065 01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:20,560 and you guys like guys you aren't ready 2066 01:09:24,390 --> 01:09:22,080 like you think you're like 2067 01:09:27,110 --> 01:09:24,400 that thing from [\h__\h] that thing from 2068 01:09:29,590 --> 01:09:27,120 stranger things that's real yo and then 2069 01:09:31,910 --> 01:09:29,600 everybody's like we are somber you are 2070 01:09:33,269 --> 01:09:31,920 correct mr elizondo 2071 01:09:36,070 --> 01:09:33,279 you know what guys let's just put the 2072 01:09:38,070 --> 01:09:36,080 aliens back we don't want that crap 2073 01:09:39,829 --> 01:09:38,080 no but that's the thing you know people 2074 01:09:42,149 --> 01:09:39,839 are like what if they come and they're 2075 01:09:44,870 --> 01:09:42,159 like space brothers or they're humans or 2076 01:09:46,950 --> 01:09:44,880 what if they're like 2077 01:09:49,110 --> 01:09:46,960 some sort of being that doesn't even 2078 01:09:50,709 --> 01:09:49,120 think like us and then all of a sudden 2079 01:09:54,149 --> 01:09:50,719 it's like you know 2080 01:09:56,550 --> 01:09:54,159 color of outer space and it's really bad 2081 01:09:58,550 --> 01:09:56,560 you know like i'm like 2082 01:09:59,990 --> 01:09:58,560 we don't know what it is 2083 01:10:02,470 --> 01:10:00,000 uh so that's a good one stephen griez 2084 01:10:04,149 --> 01:10:02,480 flair says the expanse is my fave um 2085 01:10:05,750 --> 01:10:04,159 also i believe that is one of the more 2086 01:10:07,910 --> 01:10:05,760 accurate ones and it comes down to just 2087 01:10:09,110 --> 01:10:07,920 the technical aspect of what you could 2088 01:10:10,709 --> 01:10:09,120 and could not do on a ship and all that 2089 01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:10,719 jazz they get really into it and i've 2090 01:10:13,990 --> 01:10:12,719 only into the first season but i do like 2091 01:10:15,030 --> 01:10:14,000 it because it deals with the idea of 2092 01:10:17,189 --> 01:10:15,040 like some of the stuff we're dealing 2093 01:10:19,030 --> 01:10:17,199 with if we start expanding to mars we're 2094 01:10:21,030 --> 01:10:19,040 going to be multi-planetary you know 2095 01:10:22,550 --> 01:10:21,040 species so what happens in four or five 2096 01:10:24,390 --> 01:10:22,560 generations what are the effects in the 2097 01:10:25,669 --> 01:10:24,400 human body 2098 01:10:27,350 --> 01:10:25,679 what are the effects of like we get 2099 01:10:28,870 --> 01:10:27,360 divided here in the you know the world 2100 01:10:30,070 --> 01:10:28,880 with our like oh we live here and you 2101 01:10:32,550 --> 01:10:30,080 live there but like no you're not even 2102 01:10:33,830 --> 01:10:32,560 on the same planet um the expanse is 2103 01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:33,840 pretty good i would definitely recommend 2104 01:10:37,830 --> 01:10:35,360 that one to people 2105 01:10:39,669 --> 01:10:37,840 so yeah i don't know i just i to me and 2106 01:10:42,070 --> 01:10:39,679 again i try to get too hung up on it but 2107 01:10:43,510 --> 01:10:42,080 the hollywood disclosure stuff or when a 2108 01:10:44,630 --> 01:10:43,520 show comes out that hits on some of that 2109 01:10:46,310 --> 01:10:44,640 stuff we're like okay i can see they 2110 01:10:48,149 --> 01:10:46,320 don't have the funding and the budgeting 2111 01:10:50,630 --> 01:10:48,159 but the storyline or like the message 2112 01:10:52,070 --> 01:10:50,640 behind it is so good sometimes i'm like 2113 01:10:53,750 --> 01:10:52,080 that just feels like and then you look 2114 01:10:55,030 --> 01:10:53,760 at those shows it's always two they get 2115 01:10:56,630 --> 01:10:55,040 like two or three seasons and they get 2116 01:10:57,830 --> 01:10:56,640 cancelled it's like they always say 2117 01:10:59,669 --> 01:10:57,840 their numbers are like sorry your 2118 01:11:01,110 --> 01:10:59,679 numbers sucked i'm like but everybody 2119 01:11:03,270 --> 01:11:01,120 i'm talking to is watching this how are 2120 01:11:04,790 --> 01:11:03,280 their numbers not good i just sometimes 2121 01:11:08,310 --> 01:11:04,800 think they're like whoa 2122 01:11:09,910 --> 01:11:08,320 you guys are like too much out right now 2123 01:11:12,550 --> 01:11:09,920 it's like but you know like something 2124 01:11:14,229 --> 01:11:12,560 like stargate sg1 i mean i think there's 2125 01:11:16,310 --> 01:11:14,239 like a billion seasons and then there 2126 01:11:17,750 --> 01:11:16,320 was like a spin-off season i haven't 2127 01:11:18,950 --> 01:11:17,760 been watching but my brother and my dad 2128 01:11:21,510 --> 01:11:18,960 have been watching i was like how many 2129 01:11:23,030 --> 01:11:21,520 episodes of that darn thing is there 2130 01:11:26,149 --> 01:11:23,040 a lot that 2131 01:11:27,030 --> 01:11:26,159 star game oh yeah a lot 2132 01:11:28,870 --> 01:11:27,040 yup 2133 01:11:30,070 --> 01:11:28,880 uh so zerocode didn't like the expanse 2134 01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:30,080 so much though they're like i tried the 2135 01:11:35,110 --> 01:11:32,880 expanse i keep getting bored 2136 01:11:36,790 --> 01:11:35,120 what is it good uh you know i'm only the 2137 01:11:38,550 --> 01:11:36,800 first season and i always give things 2138 01:11:40,390 --> 01:11:38,560 the first season i really do because you 2139 01:11:42,630 --> 01:11:40,400 never know sometimes 2140 01:11:43,590 --> 01:11:42,640 so i can't answer that question for you 2141 01:11:45,030 --> 01:11:43,600 um 2142 01:11:46,229 --> 01:11:45,040 but yeah that's 2143 01:11:48,950 --> 01:11:46,239 i guess 2144 01:11:50,630 --> 01:11:48,960 how do what would you say 2145 01:11:51,830 --> 01:11:50,640 was the stigma 2146 01:11:53,189 --> 01:11:51,840 with you when you were going to 2147 01:11:54,550 --> 01:11:53,199 journalism school you know you were in 2148 01:11:55,830 --> 01:11:54,560 school and everything what was that was 2149 01:11:57,669 --> 01:11:55,840 there still a pretty big stigma in 2150 01:11:59,189 --> 01:11:57,679 relation to the paranormal or any of 2151 01:12:00,550 --> 01:11:59,199 that stuff you know what 2152 01:12:01,910 --> 01:12:00,560 what was your specialty you were going 2153 01:12:03,590 --> 01:12:01,920 for how does that even work i guess when 2154 01:12:06,709 --> 01:12:03,600 you're going to apply 2155 01:12:09,310 --> 01:12:06,719 that was like not even like 2156 01:12:13,669 --> 01:12:09,320 paranormal ufos that was not part of it 2157 01:12:15,750 --> 01:12:13,679 [Laughter] 2158 01:12:17,430 --> 01:12:15,760 well that was to say but i mean far as 2159 01:12:18,790 --> 01:12:17,440 just i'm saying your normal journalism 2160 01:12:19,750 --> 01:12:18,800 that you were going for were there 2161 01:12:21,430 --> 01:12:19,760 people 2162 01:12:23,030 --> 01:12:21,440 i don't know your classmates or whatever 2163 01:12:24,550 --> 01:12:23,040 that were mentioning some of the stuff 2164 01:12:26,229 --> 01:12:24,560 outside of school like was it something 2165 01:12:27,510 --> 01:12:26,239 you at least talked about or was it just 2166 01:12:29,750 --> 01:12:27,520 nope that doesn't even get talked about 2167 01:12:32,229 --> 01:12:29,760 here no it just didn't come up 2168 01:12:34,070 --> 01:12:32,239 interesting it did not come up like you 2169 01:12:35,590 --> 01:12:34,080 know i you know in the 2170 01:12:37,750 --> 01:12:35,600 you know i guess the further it would 2171 01:12:39,110 --> 01:12:37,760 get is like talking about sci-fi movies 2172 01:12:41,030 --> 01:12:39,120 but not 2173 01:12:43,189 --> 01:12:41,040 not anything else than that but it no 2174 01:12:46,390 --> 01:12:43,199 there wasn't really any like paranormal 2175 01:12:47,590 --> 01:12:46,400 talk or ufo talk at all 2176 01:12:49,270 --> 01:12:47,600 interesting 2177 01:12:50,630 --> 01:12:49,280 what so what what was the focus then 2178 01:12:51,669 --> 01:12:50,640 like i mean i'm not trying to make this 2179 01:12:53,510 --> 01:12:51,679 boring for you guys i'm just trying to 2180 01:12:54,790 --> 01:12:53,520 make mainstream boring but like what was 2181 01:12:55,750 --> 01:12:54,800 the focus guys we're gonna talk about 2182 01:12:58,630 --> 01:12:55,760 the same thing we've been talking about 2183 01:13:00,709 --> 01:12:58,640 for 75 years like what was the thing 2184 01:13:02,870 --> 01:13:00,719 no it's just you know you cover current 2185 01:13:05,030 --> 01:13:02,880 events and you know news going on in the 2186 01:13:07,430 --> 01:13:05,040 world you know whether you were gonna 2187 01:13:09,270 --> 01:13:07,440 you know focus on local news or you're 2188 01:13:11,270 --> 01:13:09,280 gonna try to get on cable news or you're 2189 01:13:12,470 --> 01:13:11,280 trying to get on like news magazine type 2190 01:13:13,350 --> 01:13:12,480 shows 2191 01:13:16,630 --> 01:13:13,360 oh 2192 01:13:18,550 --> 01:13:16,640 and uh tell your husband thank you like 2193 01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:18,560 i said jess rogie gives out voice 2194 01:13:20,790 --> 01:13:19,760 lessons guys i don't know if that's true 2195 01:13:23,030 --> 01:13:20,800 or not but maybe she's starting a 2196 01:13:26,790 --> 01:13:23,040 business now so maybe i am 2197 01:13:29,110 --> 01:13:26,800 i am now i i'm starting it now 2198 01:13:30,550 --> 01:13:29,120 willie is my first client heck yeah it's 2199 01:13:33,910 --> 01:13:30,560 very good thank you thank you very much 2200 01:13:35,669 --> 01:13:33,920 for that that's been great um yeah so 2201 01:13:37,110 --> 01:13:35,679 really quick then let's let's sit on one 2202 01:13:39,830 --> 01:13:37,120 other one if you're up for it if you can 2203 01:13:42,310 --> 01:13:39,840 even talk about it what's your take 2204 01:13:43,910 --> 01:13:42,320 on you you hit on the control thing so 2205 01:13:45,750 --> 01:13:43,920 in your opinion you're pretty concerned 2206 01:13:46,550 --> 01:13:45,760 about control of people being controlled 2207 01:13:48,470 --> 01:13:46,560 you feel like that's been something 2208 01:13:51,110 --> 01:13:48,480 that's been going on for a while 2209 01:13:53,030 --> 01:13:51,120 yes of course you know okay how would 2210 01:13:54,310 --> 01:13:53,040 you apply that back to 2211 01:13:56,790 --> 01:13:54,320 say the 2212 01:13:58,470 --> 01:13:56,800 uh psycho like psychedelics and things 2213 01:14:00,550 --> 01:13:58,480 of that nature do you think in regards 2214 01:14:02,229 --> 01:14:00,560 to say mushrooms and 2215 01:14:04,870 --> 01:14:02,239 that aspect of things do you think that 2216 01:14:06,149 --> 01:14:04,880 there is a an avenue there for research 2217 01:14:07,510 --> 01:14:06,159 that needs to be done or is that a good 2218 01:14:09,430 --> 01:14:07,520 thing that the government came in and 2219 01:14:10,470 --> 01:14:09,440 shut that all down and made it the same 2220 01:14:12,390 --> 01:14:10,480 heroin 2221 01:14:14,550 --> 01:14:12,400 i mean they already researched it you 2222 01:14:17,350 --> 01:14:14,560 know back in the day with the mk ultra 2223 01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:17,360 stuff you know i mean they researched 2224 01:14:21,910 --> 01:14:19,360 many drugs you know many drugs that 2225 01:14:23,910 --> 01:14:21,920 would alter perception in mind 2226 01:14:25,830 --> 01:14:23,920 and you know and guess what we use the 2227 01:14:28,070 --> 01:14:25,840 some of those drugs got you know like 2228 01:14:29,669 --> 01:14:28,080 ritalin ritalin was tested in mk ultra 2229 01:14:32,149 --> 01:14:29,679 as a mind controlled drug not a lot of 2230 01:14:34,390 --> 01:14:32,159 people know that i didn't know 2231 01:14:37,189 --> 01:14:34,400 that's interesting 2232 01:14:38,630 --> 01:14:37,199 very interesting yeah so hit i'm sorry i 2233 01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:38,640 i interrupted you i'd say on that a 2234 01:14:44,470 --> 01:14:41,520 little bit far is what do you think 2235 01:14:46,550 --> 01:14:44,480 was there any good that came out of mkhl 2236 01:14:48,870 --> 01:14:46,560 probably you know they said you know a 2237 01:14:50,709 --> 01:14:48,880 lot of the you know big proponents and i 2238 01:14:52,630 --> 01:14:50,719 didn't do my research before the show so 2239 01:14:55,030 --> 01:14:52,640 i have no names available we're just 2240 01:14:57,110 --> 01:14:55,040 writing a van chatting about no like 2241 01:14:58,470 --> 01:14:57,120 also a lot of the dudes that you know 2242 01:15:00,870 --> 01:14:58,480 like 2243 01:15:02,709 --> 01:15:00,880 i think jimmy lee no i don't care i 2244 01:15:04,470 --> 01:15:02,719 can't verify that so i can't say that 2245 01:15:06,790 --> 01:15:04,480 but a lot of the dudes that came out and 2246 01:15:08,790 --> 01:15:06,800 we're all like hey man love you know 2247 01:15:10,950 --> 01:15:08,800 tune in tune out 2248 01:15:13,110 --> 01:15:10,960 [\h__\h] like that they used to say you know 2249 01:15:14,790 --> 01:15:13,120 a lot of the big guys like back then 2250 01:15:16,790 --> 01:15:14,800 they were in the government research 2251 01:15:18,630 --> 01:15:16,800 studies before they started you know 2252 01:15:20,790 --> 01:15:18,640 going out there they called the cia 2253 01:15:22,630 --> 01:15:20,800 summer of love 2254 01:15:25,189 --> 01:15:22,640 you know and then all the 2255 01:15:27,110 --> 01:15:25,199 because the lsd was like lab made right 2256 01:15:29,110 --> 01:15:27,120 and then that got released you know and 2257 01:15:30,630 --> 01:15:29,120 there was a lot of marijuana usage and 2258 01:15:33,590 --> 01:15:30,640 there was a lot of you know mushroom 2259 01:15:35,750 --> 01:15:33,600 usage and what's interesting today is 2260 01:15:38,070 --> 01:15:35,760 that you know we do have you know legal 2261 01:15:40,310 --> 01:15:38,080 marijuana in many states and then a lot 2262 01:15:42,950 --> 01:15:40,320 of other states have 2263 01:15:45,830 --> 01:15:42,960 medical and other states also allow like 2264 01:15:47,750 --> 01:15:45,840 cbd you know and now the next movement 2265 01:15:49,750 --> 01:15:47,760 going on right now is there's a lot of 2266 01:15:53,270 --> 01:15:49,760 movement towards um 2267 01:15:55,910 --> 01:15:53,280 legalizing psych or decriminalizing uh 2268 01:15:57,750 --> 01:15:55,920 magic mushrooms psilocybin 2269 01:15:59,669 --> 01:15:57,760 you know um it's it's all over the 2270 01:16:02,310 --> 01:15:59,679 country people are using it you know 2271 01:16:03,270 --> 01:16:02,320 micro dosing for therapeutic things you 2272 01:16:04,550 --> 01:16:03,280 know 2273 01:16:08,709 --> 01:16:04,560 so 2274 01:16:11,030 --> 01:16:08,719 why the psychedelics i don't know i 2275 01:16:12,630 --> 01:16:11,040 think it does open up people's minds i 2276 01:16:14,630 --> 01:16:12,640 don't know if that was their intent but 2277 01:16:16,149 --> 01:16:14,640 that's what happened you know with these 2278 01:16:17,910 --> 01:16:16,159 things 2279 01:16:19,750 --> 01:16:17,920 coming out 2280 01:16:21,270 --> 01:16:19,760 well i mean look at i guess let's sit on 2281 01:16:23,270 --> 01:16:21,280 there for a second with us with the uh 2282 01:16:25,990 --> 01:16:23,280 psilocybin uh 2283 01:16:27,750 --> 01:16:26,000 it's pretty fascinating when you 2284 01:16:30,870 --> 01:16:27,760 actually look into the history of it and 2285 01:16:32,630 --> 01:16:30,880 recognize that without um 2286 01:16:33,830 --> 01:16:32,640 without the the mushrooms as it were 2287 01:16:36,070 --> 01:16:33,840 there's a better term for the mushrooms 2288 01:16:37,189 --> 01:16:36,080 i'm forgetting the term here psilocybin 2289 01:16:39,590 --> 01:16:37,199 yeah but like 2290 01:16:42,870 --> 01:16:39,600 there's um fungi fungi is the 2291 01:16:45,030 --> 01:16:42,880 terminology fungus fungus existed for 2292 01:16:46,870 --> 01:16:45,040 millions and millions of years were more 2293 01:16:49,430 --> 01:16:46,880 closely related to it than any other 2294 01:16:51,430 --> 01:16:49,440 living being at this point in time uh 2295 01:16:53,430 --> 01:16:51,440 and we are mushrooms 2296 01:16:55,910 --> 01:16:53,440 we really are they think they say we are 2297 01:16:57,830 --> 01:16:55,920 descendants of mushrooms um 2298 01:16:59,910 --> 01:16:57,840 and uh jacob you're in here i know uh 2299 01:17:01,350 --> 01:16:59,920 jacob willett he was he did a little bit 2300 01:17:02,950 --> 01:17:01,360 uh the one episode he was on here 2301 01:17:04,470 --> 01:17:02,960 talking about some of the experiences 2302 01:17:05,990 --> 01:17:04,480 that he had with it 2303 01:17:08,149 --> 01:17:06,000 and the 2304 01:17:09,430 --> 01:17:08,159 people that seem to do it in a in a safe 2305 01:17:11,350 --> 01:17:09,440 environment if you know it can be 2306 01:17:13,270 --> 01:17:11,360 studied and actually brought in 2307 01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:13,280 have these very 2308 01:17:17,070 --> 01:17:14,640 um 2309 01:17:19,189 --> 01:17:17,080 almost you could say spiritual 2310 01:17:20,310 --> 01:17:19,199 revelations i guess you could say on 2311 01:17:22,149 --> 01:17:20,320 some of these trips i'm not saying it's 2312 01:17:24,149 --> 01:17:22,159 always good but there seems to be a much 2313 01:17:25,510 --> 01:17:24,159 more opening to them and it i just think 2314 01:17:26,790 --> 01:17:25,520 it's one of those things that opens 2315 01:17:28,870 --> 01:17:26,800 people's consciousness a little more and 2316 01:17:30,790 --> 01:17:28,880 helps them connect and realize that 2317 01:17:32,709 --> 01:17:30,800 you know we are 2318 01:17:33,990 --> 01:17:32,719 more or less one with the world the kind 2319 01:17:36,149 --> 01:17:34,000 of the law of one the idea that 2320 01:17:38,790 --> 01:17:36,159 everything's connected and experiencing 2321 01:17:40,550 --> 01:17:38,800 that and recognizing that and i just 2322 01:17:42,229 --> 01:17:40,560 it's so fascinating like there was one 2323 01:17:44,630 --> 01:17:42,239 that i was reading on the other night uh 2324 01:17:45,910 --> 01:17:44,640 turkey something turkey tail or turkey 2325 01:17:47,030 --> 01:17:45,920 kind of they call it turkey tail i think 2326 01:17:48,390 --> 01:17:47,040 it's called turkey stuffing your turkey 2327 01:17:49,430 --> 01:17:48,400 tail because it looks like a turkey's 2328 01:17:51,270 --> 01:17:49,440 tail 2329 01:17:53,270 --> 01:17:51,280 and the effects of that treated with 2330 01:17:55,910 --> 01:17:53,280 along with um 2331 01:17:57,350 --> 01:17:55,920 chemotherapy and they've actually 2332 01:17:59,189 --> 01:17:57,360 don't want to use the words cured but 2333 01:18:01,430 --> 01:17:59,199 they've done that with some people 2334 01:18:03,110 --> 01:18:01,440 um but there's no money in it that's the 2335 01:18:05,270 --> 01:18:03,120 problem whatever people's opinions on 2336 01:18:06,630 --> 01:18:05,280 that is but it's i i think it the stuff 2337 01:18:08,470 --> 01:18:06,640 should be 2338 01:18:09,990 --> 01:18:08,480 really studied and researched i mean 2339 01:18:11,030 --> 01:18:10,000 mycelium oh yeah you guys already talked 2340 01:18:12,870 --> 01:18:11,040 about the chat 2341 01:18:14,950 --> 01:18:12,880 it's it's amazing the consciousness 2342 01:18:16,310 --> 01:18:14,960 behind how a tree reaches out she knows 2343 01:18:18,149 --> 01:18:16,320 like her offsprings and if she feels 2344 01:18:19,990 --> 01:18:18,159 she's being threatened by whatever 2345 01:18:21,990 --> 01:18:20,000 uh spore fungus that might be attacking 2346 01:18:24,229 --> 01:18:22,000 her they'll communicate and push their 2347 01:18:25,669 --> 01:18:24,239 own young further out so it won't attack 2348 01:18:27,990 --> 01:18:25,679 them like it's just unbelievable to 2349 01:18:29,110 --> 01:18:28,000 reroute energy and resources to them as 2350 01:18:31,270 --> 01:18:29,120 needed 2351 01:18:32,390 --> 01:18:31,280 to mean that i mean that's 2352 01:18:34,550 --> 01:18:32,400 i don't know again i think it just goes 2353 01:18:35,830 --> 01:18:34,560 back we just can't talk to it so because 2354 01:18:37,189 --> 01:18:35,840 because we can't sit down and have a 2355 01:18:40,070 --> 01:18:37,199 conversation 2356 01:18:41,910 --> 01:18:40,080 we just throw it in this weird little 2357 01:18:43,430 --> 01:18:41,920 well i guess if you're a threat i guess 2358 01:18:44,229 --> 01:18:43,440 what you're kind of getting at is like 2359 01:18:46,310 --> 01:18:44,239 if 2360 01:18:48,870 --> 01:18:46,320 we think this is communication and 2361 01:18:49,910 --> 01:18:48,880 consciousness but this is between us as 2362 01:18:51,750 --> 01:18:49,920 humans 2363 01:18:53,590 --> 01:18:51,760 dogs communicate you know when you 2364 01:18:54,470 --> 01:18:53,600 communicate with your dog it's like my 2365 01:18:56,310 --> 01:18:54,480 dog 2366 01:18:57,830 --> 01:18:56,320 like is very expressive and like she 2367 01:18:59,510 --> 01:18:57,840 looks at me and she'll like kind of be 2368 01:19:00,709 --> 01:18:59,520 like this is what i want look at what 2369 01:19:02,470 --> 01:19:00,719 she wants and that's how she 2370 01:19:04,390 --> 01:19:02,480 communicates with me 2371 01:19:06,470 --> 01:19:04,400 you know and so the tree communicates 2372 01:19:09,189 --> 01:19:06,480 different with another tree you know and 2373 01:19:10,470 --> 01:19:09,199 animals communicate with animals and 2374 01:19:12,310 --> 01:19:10,480 you know they say like you talked about 2375 01:19:14,229 --> 01:19:12,320 dolphins earlier dolphins communicate 2376 01:19:15,669 --> 01:19:14,239 with dolphins you know 2377 01:19:16,950 --> 01:19:15,679 yep 2378 01:19:18,310 --> 01:19:16,960 yeah it's 2379 01:19:19,590 --> 01:19:18,320 in even you know you hit on that point 2380 01:19:21,270 --> 01:19:19,600 you bring back one point too about what 2381 01:19:22,630 --> 01:19:21,280 we're doing well i've got i always 2382 01:19:23,590 --> 01:19:22,640 forget the numbers but who cares we're 2383 01:19:24,550 --> 01:19:23,600 just hanging out here having a good time 2384 01:19:25,669 --> 01:19:24,560 we get these numbers wrong i don't think 2385 01:19:27,189 --> 01:19:25,679 anybody in the chat's going to kill us 2386 01:19:29,830 --> 01:19:27,199 over it but i think if they said 2387 01:19:31,830 --> 01:19:29,840 something like less than is it 30 of all 2388 01:19:33,910 --> 01:19:31,840 communication is done verbally it could 2389 01:19:35,590 --> 01:19:33,920 be more or less than that but the idea 2390 01:19:37,669 --> 01:19:35,600 that there's so much more going on with 2391 01:19:39,110 --> 01:19:37,679 the way we move and and it's even more 2392 01:19:40,790 --> 01:19:39,120 amplified in person right then you're 2393 01:19:43,110 --> 01:19:40,800 dealing with like auras and all this 2394 01:19:45,990 --> 01:19:43,120 other energy that's going on so the idea 2395 01:19:47,750 --> 01:19:46,000 that we think that this is communication 2396 01:19:49,830 --> 01:19:47,760 i don't know because like you're saying 2397 01:19:51,030 --> 01:19:49,840 i mean if you with your own dog or like 2398 01:19:52,470 --> 01:19:51,040 you know i've had my kids before they 2399 01:19:55,510 --> 01:19:52,480 can talk and stuff you're communic 2400 01:19:57,590 --> 01:19:55,520 there's communication yes you know it's 2401 01:19:59,750 --> 01:19:57,600 i don't know i just think that 2402 01:20:00,790 --> 01:19:59,760 if people went out and approached things 2403 01:20:02,070 --> 01:20:00,800 with 2404 01:20:03,430 --> 01:20:02,080 a little bit of reverence that 2405 01:20:05,910 --> 01:20:03,440 everything's on the same playing field 2406 01:20:07,350 --> 01:20:05,920 as us versus i'm above it i think that 2407 01:20:09,669 --> 01:20:07,360 things would reveal itself to us a 2408 01:20:11,910 --> 01:20:09,679 little more sometimes and that's just 2409 01:20:13,669 --> 01:20:11,920 my own little personal opinion about it 2410 01:20:14,709 --> 01:20:13,679 and i do take a big issue with what 2411 01:20:16,709 --> 01:20:14,719 happened 2412 01:20:18,550 --> 01:20:16,719 uh oh my gosh what was the big event 2413 01:20:20,070 --> 01:20:18,560 back in the day man like jimi hendrix 2414 01:20:22,070 --> 01:20:20,080 was there like they were all just in 2415 01:20:24,310 --> 01:20:22,080 this field i should know this name is 2416 01:20:27,590 --> 01:20:24,320 that the um no way i 2417 01:20:28,870 --> 01:20:27,600 would stop woodstock yes thank you 2418 01:20:29,750 --> 01:20:28,880 such a big name and i couldn't remember 2419 01:20:31,189 --> 01:20:29,760 it 2420 01:20:33,669 --> 01:20:31,199 when that went down they were talking 2421 01:20:36,149 --> 01:20:33,679 about yes yes you had people that were 2422 01:20:37,990 --> 01:20:36,159 doing some harder drugs and stuff but at 2423 01:20:40,390 --> 01:20:38,000 that time lsd and a lot of stuff they 2424 01:20:42,550 --> 01:20:40,400 were doing had not been worked on in a 2425 01:20:44,550 --> 01:20:42,560 lab yet it was a different compound and 2426 01:20:46,709 --> 01:20:44,560 chemical makeup but the idea that they 2427 01:20:47,990 --> 01:20:46,719 were experimenting with psilocybin and 2428 01:20:50,470 --> 01:20:48,000 mushrooms and they were having these 2429 01:20:52,229 --> 01:20:50,480 awakening things were transcending race 2430 01:20:54,070 --> 01:20:52,239 and culture and creed and it was 2431 01:20:54,790 --> 01:20:54,080 bringing people together 2432 01:21:00,629 --> 01:20:54,800 and 2433 01:21:01,830 --> 01:21:00,639 against drugs at the time it's the same 2434 01:21:02,950 --> 01:21:01,840 time that you know ronald reagan ruled 2435 01:21:04,629 --> 01:21:02,960 that out and he also rolled out the 2436 01:21:05,990 --> 01:21:04,639 whole fairness doctrine having to do 2437 01:21:07,669 --> 01:21:06,000 with mainstream media we don't get to 2438 01:21:09,189 --> 01:21:07,679 cover both sides 2439 01:21:09,990 --> 01:21:09,199 yeah that stuff all happened and then 2440 01:21:11,990 --> 01:21:10,000 like 2441 01:21:12,950 --> 01:21:12,000 coke took over because this history it 2442 01:21:15,590 --> 01:21:12,960 was like 2443 01:21:17,790 --> 01:21:15,600 coke took over in the 80s mm-hmm and 2444 01:21:20,709 --> 01:21:17,800 that was that was an accident no 2445 01:21:22,310 --> 01:21:20,719 [Laughter] 2446 01:21:24,790 --> 01:21:22,320 you preached to him you tell him why 2447 01:21:27,030 --> 01:21:24,800 that happened no it's it's it's the 2448 01:21:28,870 --> 01:21:27,040 thing is i mean i mean you guys should 2449 01:21:30,390 --> 01:21:28,880 know but like a lot of these things get 2450 01:21:31,669 --> 01:21:30,400 pushed because the government pushed 2451 01:21:34,070 --> 01:21:31,679 them out 2452 01:21:36,070 --> 01:21:34,080 marijuana yeah we voted for it to be 2453 01:21:38,870 --> 01:21:36,080 illegal too but did they had to let it 2454 01:21:43,189 --> 01:21:41,110 yeah well i mean then you go a step 2455 01:21:45,990 --> 01:21:43,199 further and you look at what the cia did 2456 01:21:47,910 --> 01:21:46,000 pumping it into the the inner city and 2457 01:21:49,590 --> 01:21:47,920 that was a whole system that they 2458 01:21:51,750 --> 01:21:49,600 declassified 2459 01:21:53,430 --> 01:21:51,760 there used to be like people used to not 2460 01:21:55,669 --> 01:21:53,440 believe like when people 2461 01:21:58,310 --> 01:21:55,679 would say no the government put crack 2462 01:22:00,310 --> 01:21:58,320 into a certain demographic and had them 2463 01:22:03,110 --> 01:22:00,320 like sell it on the street 2464 01:22:05,669 --> 01:22:03,120 and um you know and these cartels and 2465 01:22:08,470 --> 01:22:05,679 this stuff like man it's like 2466 01:22:10,709 --> 01:22:08,480 when you get into the drug stuff it's 2467 01:22:13,270 --> 01:22:10,719 like it's kind of scary like how much 2468 01:22:15,430 --> 01:22:13,280 money is in that whole trade you know 2469 01:22:16,629 --> 01:22:15,440 and 2470 01:22:18,790 --> 01:22:16,639 oh my god 2471 01:22:20,950 --> 01:22:18,800 i mean you're like i'm like yeah you can 2472 01:22:22,390 --> 01:22:20,960 get deep into that stuff guys you know 2473 01:22:23,990 --> 01:22:22,400 what i mean like 2474 01:22:25,030 --> 01:22:24,000 i don't think it's wrong to cover some 2475 01:22:27,350 --> 01:22:25,040 of it and the reason why i don't think 2476 01:22:28,709 --> 01:22:27,360 it's wrong is because 2477 01:22:30,310 --> 01:22:28,719 ask yourself right now if you're in the 2478 01:22:32,070 --> 01:22:30,320 chat or you're just listening wherever 2479 01:22:33,510 --> 01:22:32,080 you are in the cosmos maybe it's 40 000 2480 01:22:35,590 --> 01:22:33,520 years later i don't know how long this 2481 01:22:37,270 --> 01:22:35,600 audio lasted but if you're dealing with 2482 01:22:38,709 --> 01:22:37,280 something right now in your life and 2483 01:22:41,030 --> 01:22:38,719 you're realizing that we all kind of 2484 01:22:42,950 --> 01:22:41,040 agree but you can't talk about it 2485 01:22:45,430 --> 01:22:42,960 where is that coming from what is the 2486 01:22:47,350 --> 01:22:45,440 push behind something to limit 2487 01:22:48,950 --> 01:22:47,360 just the idea that words 2488 01:22:51,430 --> 01:22:48,960 you know because it went with okay 2489 01:22:53,590 --> 01:22:51,440 expression was too far music was too far 2490 01:22:56,070 --> 01:22:53,600 people connecting now it's getting to 2491 01:22:58,470 --> 01:22:56,080 words or too hard so it's getting to 2492 01:23:00,709 --> 01:22:58,480 this this weird spot where we have to 2493 01:23:02,310 --> 01:23:00,719 eventually call it out and somehow it's 2494 01:23:05,030 --> 01:23:02,320 been set up to where calling that out 2495 01:23:06,790 --> 01:23:05,040 makes you the bad guy i don't know yeah 2496 01:23:08,149 --> 01:23:06,800 i don't know where i'm at right ended up 2497 01:23:10,149 --> 01:23:08,159 there 2498 01:23:13,350 --> 01:23:10,159 i don't know i should i mean right i'm 2499 01:23:16,149 --> 01:23:13,360 like but no this is the truth you know 2500 01:23:19,030 --> 01:23:17,750 the things that 2501 01:23:20,950 --> 01:23:19,040 you know we call the government it's 2502 01:23:22,390 --> 01:23:20,960 like this big bad thing but then you 2503 01:23:24,310 --> 01:23:22,400 know even we're using this word it's 2504 01:23:26,470 --> 01:23:24,320 like whatever segment of the government 2505 01:23:29,189 --> 01:23:26,480 that did that you know it's the bad 2506 01:23:31,030 --> 01:23:29,199 government you know yeah and when you 2507 01:23:32,550 --> 01:23:31,040 think they did that to 2508 01:23:34,950 --> 01:23:32,560 their people 2509 01:23:36,550 --> 01:23:34,960 our people it's it sucks you know when 2510 01:23:38,629 --> 01:23:36,560 you think about that and so you start to 2511 01:23:39,910 --> 01:23:38,639 think well what else did they do 2512 01:23:42,070 --> 01:23:39,920 mm-hmm 2513 01:23:43,590 --> 01:23:42,080 yep and it i guess that's the rough 2514 01:23:45,189 --> 01:23:43,600 thing is that 2515 01:23:46,870 --> 01:23:45,199 when you look at it right i feel like it 2516 01:23:48,870 --> 01:23:46,880 always go bad it always goes back to 2517 01:23:50,390 --> 01:23:48,880 control and money like in any of it and 2518 01:23:52,550 --> 01:23:50,400 it's just if you have these free 2519 01:23:54,390 --> 01:23:52,560 independent free thinking people 2520 01:23:56,229 --> 01:23:54,400 that can make i don't know sit around 2521 01:23:57,830 --> 01:23:56,239 and just have these ideas or connect to 2522 01:23:59,110 --> 01:23:57,840 something else we were talking a 2523 01:24:01,590 --> 01:23:59,120 gentleman the other night on the paranor 2524 01:24:03,430 --> 01:24:01,600 chop shop or chop shop uh go check them 2525 01:24:05,189 --> 01:24:03,440 on sunny and lewis's podcast now they 2526 01:24:06,470 --> 01:24:05,199 were talking to a gentleman 2527 01:24:07,910 --> 01:24:06,480 said he had a friend who's been doing 2528 01:24:10,229 --> 01:24:07,920 this for a while right he was taking 2529 01:24:12,149 --> 01:24:10,239 mushrooms and dosing and all that jazz 2530 01:24:14,390 --> 01:24:12,159 and he said that he got to a certain 2531 01:24:16,070 --> 01:24:14,400 point from meeting some entities that 2532 01:24:17,750 --> 01:24:16,080 i think was the fourth or fifth time 2533 01:24:19,590 --> 01:24:17,760 yeah which a lot of people talk about 2534 01:24:21,350 --> 01:24:19,600 this right meeting entities 2535 01:24:23,910 --> 01:24:21,360 what kind of entity 2536 01:24:26,229 --> 01:24:23,920 uh he didn't specify was like an 2537 01:24:27,350 --> 01:24:26,239 energy source um some people have 2538 01:24:28,870 --> 01:24:27,360 different experiences they actually see 2539 01:24:31,030 --> 01:24:28,880 a face some don't for him it was just 2540 01:24:32,790 --> 01:24:31,040 more of an orbish thing i guess you 2541 01:24:33,910 --> 01:24:32,800 could say yeah where he knew it was 2542 01:24:35,510 --> 01:24:33,920 there but it 2543 01:24:37,350 --> 01:24:35,520 didn't manifest in the way that you 2544 01:24:38,229 --> 01:24:37,360 would expect you or i to to be there i 2545 01:24:40,070 --> 01:24:38,239 guess 2546 01:24:42,709 --> 01:24:40,080 but what got weird was 2547 01:24:44,950 --> 01:24:42,719 he said that the fifth time you went 2548 01:24:46,390 --> 01:24:44,960 this entity told him what are you doing 2549 01:24:48,070 --> 01:24:46,400 here again you've already learned what 2550 01:24:49,189 --> 01:24:48,080 you like we've already taken you as far 2551 01:24:50,629 --> 01:24:49,199 as you can go you need to go out and 2552 01:24:51,830 --> 01:24:50,639 apply it now like you don't need to be 2553 01:24:53,669 --> 01:24:51,840 here 2554 01:24:55,270 --> 01:24:53,679 so it's very 2555 01:24:56,470 --> 01:24:55,280 you know you have even like people down 2556 01:24:59,189 --> 01:24:56,480 in south america that go on these 2557 01:25:01,510 --> 01:24:59,199 ayahuasca trips right they'll have group 2558 01:25:03,430 --> 01:25:01,520 sessions as it were and there's 2559 01:25:04,390 --> 01:25:03,440 experiencing i could get maybe if you 2560 01:25:05,669 --> 01:25:04,400 and i and our brains are just 2561 01:25:06,709 --> 01:25:05,679 short-circuiting and tripping out and 2562 01:25:08,229 --> 01:25:06,719 whatever we're seeing different things 2563 01:25:09,709 --> 01:25:08,239 but they're experiencing the same thing 2564 01:25:12,950 --> 01:25:09,719 sometimes at the same 2565 01:25:13,830 --> 01:25:12,960 time yeah yeah and who knows maybe 2566 01:25:15,990 --> 01:25:13,840 there's something that collective 2567 01:25:19,110 --> 01:25:16,000 consciousness creating it i don't know 2568 01:25:20,390 --> 01:25:19,120 but it's fascinating to me 2569 01:25:22,070 --> 01:25:20,400 there's speaking of that there's another 2570 01:25:23,990 --> 01:25:22,080 show on hulu um i just feel like we're 2571 01:25:25,270 --> 01:25:24,000 just talking about shows tonight um but 2572 01:25:26,709 --> 01:25:25,280 nine perfect strangers i don't know if 2573 01:25:28,950 --> 01:25:26,719 you've watched that or not i 2574 01:25:30,550 --> 01:25:28,960 just me and my i've been watching that 2575 01:25:33,430 --> 01:25:30,560 with my sister um 2576 01:25:34,550 --> 01:25:33,440 we just got like four episodes and 2577 01:25:36,550 --> 01:25:34,560 i'm like 2578 01:25:38,550 --> 01:25:36,560 holy crap are there really places like 2579 01:25:40,550 --> 01:25:38,560 this yeah see but that's what i'm saying 2580 01:25:42,790 --> 01:25:40,560 now that's even hitting like 2581 01:25:44,709 --> 01:25:42,800 the hollywood media aspect of where 2582 01:25:45,910 --> 01:25:44,719 they're finally this is i really think 2583 01:25:48,550 --> 01:25:45,920 man the next 2584 01:25:49,910 --> 01:25:48,560 20 40 years if we can hang in there guys 2585 01:25:51,270 --> 01:25:49,920 there could be some really amazing 2586 01:25:53,750 --> 01:25:51,280 beautiful things coming out of some of 2587 01:25:55,270 --> 01:25:53,760 this um and but i do recognize that some 2588 01:25:57,510 --> 01:25:55,280 of this needs to be approached carefully 2589 01:25:58,950 --> 01:25:57,520 you know i'm sure very much so 2590 01:26:00,950 --> 01:25:58,960 i'm sure we have a lot of shamans online 2591 01:26:02,950 --> 01:26:00,960 but like for 9.99 a month i will guide 2592 01:26:05,270 --> 01:26:02,960 you on these journeys 2593 01:26:07,270 --> 01:26:05,280 you know but there are groups out there 2594 01:26:09,830 --> 01:26:07,280 you know i've seen on like instagram and 2595 01:26:11,830 --> 01:26:09,840 you can find out like where they do like 2596 01:26:14,390 --> 01:26:11,840 weekly zoom calls and they talk about 2597 01:26:16,390 --> 01:26:14,400 micro dosing and they kind of you know 2598 01:26:17,270 --> 01:26:16,400 talk you know you talk with other people 2599 01:26:19,590 --> 01:26:17,280 so 2600 01:26:21,189 --> 01:26:19,600 um you can find them online i don't have 2601 01:26:22,629 --> 01:26:21,199 anybody off the top of my head but you 2602 01:26:23,990 --> 01:26:22,639 know there are groups out there where 2603 01:26:26,229 --> 01:26:24,000 you can go talk to i don't think they 2604 01:26:27,990 --> 01:26:26,239 cost anything you just you know get to 2605 01:26:30,229 --> 01:26:28,000 kind of get an idea of what you're 2606 01:26:32,229 --> 01:26:30,239 getting into because it is a psychedel 2607 01:26:36,390 --> 01:26:32,239 this is not just like smoking a joint 2608 01:26:37,990 --> 01:26:36,400 you know it's it some people 2609 01:26:40,950 --> 01:26:38,000 i guess you need to be careful with your 2610 01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:40,960 dosage you need to be with somebody you 2611 01:26:43,030 --> 01:26:41,840 know 2612 01:26:46,229 --> 01:26:43,040 that 2613 01:26:47,990 --> 01:26:46,239 you know 2614 01:26:50,229 --> 01:26:48,000 don't do it alone 2615 01:26:51,430 --> 01:26:50,239 no i agree um it's like what jess 2616 01:26:52,550 --> 01:26:51,440 because i forgot to ask you where we got 2617 01:26:54,470 --> 01:26:52,560 going i know you probably don't have all 2618 01:26:55,910 --> 01:26:54,480 night here so i was going to do is if 2619 01:26:58,070 --> 01:26:55,920 anybody's interested guys i'm going to 2620 01:26:59,510 --> 01:26:58,080 open up i'll put a link if anybody's 2621 01:27:01,189 --> 01:26:59,520 interested in hopping in please if you 2622 01:27:02,070 --> 01:27:01,199 could have earphones that would help a 2623 01:27:04,310 --> 01:27:02,080 lot 2624 01:27:05,350 --> 01:27:04,320 uh just for audio reasons but if you're 2625 01:27:07,189 --> 01:27:05,360 open to it jess i don't know i was just 2626 01:27:08,790 --> 01:27:07,199 saying i forgot to ask you off here 2627 01:27:09,910 --> 01:27:08,800 because i'm a professional how long do 2628 01:27:11,669 --> 01:27:09,920 you have tonight do you have like a half 2629 01:27:13,910 --> 01:27:11,679 hour left or in case i could do a half 2630 01:27:15,590 --> 01:27:13,920 an hour yeah half an hour yeah so what 2631 01:27:17,510 --> 01:27:15,600 i'll do guys i'll put that in a link in 2632 01:27:20,070 --> 01:27:17,520 there and if anybody wants to hop in and 2633 01:27:21,350 --> 01:27:20,080 ask some questions um if i get a couple 2634 01:27:22,790 --> 01:27:21,360 people we'll try to balance it out to 2635 01:27:24,390 --> 01:27:22,800 where we can get you in and out that way 2636 01:27:27,030 --> 01:27:24,400 if there's more than one 2637 01:27:28,550 --> 01:27:27,040 so yeah i i don't know i just 2638 01:27:30,709 --> 01:27:28,560 i think that you're doing a great job 2639 01:27:32,709 --> 01:27:30,719 for us over on the fringe um what you're 2640 01:27:34,790 --> 01:27:32,719 doing with the rogue report calling i 2641 01:27:36,470 --> 01:27:34,800 know you go deeper there guys we can't 2642 01:27:37,270 --> 01:27:36,480 suck well you know the platform we're on 2643 01:27:39,990 --> 01:27:37,280 so 2644 01:27:41,669 --> 01:27:40,000 we can't go as deep as we would like um 2645 01:27:43,830 --> 01:27:41,679 but there's more to be happy radio 2646 01:27:45,590 --> 01:27:43,840 that's what the radio and audio is for 2647 01:27:47,270 --> 01:27:45,600 it's where you can like really talk 2648 01:27:48,790 --> 01:27:47,280 that's what i feel 2649 01:27:50,790 --> 01:27:48,800 which is weird right hasn't that like 2650 01:27:51,910 --> 01:27:50,800 flip-flop you remember back in the day 2651 01:27:53,510 --> 01:27:51,920 i feel like well i'm thinking of the 2652 01:27:55,750 --> 01:27:53,520 days like okay i don't know if he ever 2653 01:27:56,870 --> 01:27:55,760 reached as far as like if you know who 2654 01:27:58,470 --> 01:27:56,880 this is you probably do since you were a 2655 01:28:00,950 --> 01:27:58,480 fan of but did you know the legend that 2656 01:28:02,149 --> 01:28:00,960 was paul harvey paul harvey back in the 2657 01:28:04,310 --> 01:28:02,159 day or is that just more of a local 2658 01:28:05,510 --> 01:28:04,320 thing for me he was maybe that's local i 2659 01:28:07,669 --> 01:28:05,520 don't know who that is i thought he was 2660 01:28:09,750 --> 01:28:07,679 nationally syndicated but his name was 2661 01:28:11,510 --> 01:28:09,760 murphy yeah he but he's passed away a 2662 01:28:13,510 --> 01:28:11,520 long time ago now but he was kind of 2663 01:28:14,629 --> 01:28:13,520 localish to the area so that was the 2664 01:28:16,229 --> 01:28:14,639 reason we had a typhoon but i just 2665 01:28:18,790 --> 01:28:16,239 remember listening to those people on 2666 01:28:20,070 --> 01:28:18,800 the radio right and like you said there 2667 01:28:22,310 --> 01:28:20,080 were certain words you couldn't say your 2668 01:28:23,830 --> 01:28:22,320 subjects and it's weird now that that 2669 01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:23,840 has become 2670 01:28:27,910 --> 01:28:25,920 um 2671 01:28:29,510 --> 01:28:27,920 the area to have these conversations and 2672 01:28:30,470 --> 01:28:29,520 podcasts i still push podcasts i'm like 2673 01:28:32,070 --> 01:28:30,480 listen if you just want to go hang out 2674 01:28:34,149 --> 01:28:32,080 with your buddy and chat 2675 01:28:35,910 --> 01:28:34,159 and you know have a good time that's a 2676 01:28:37,270 --> 01:28:35,920 way to do it because 2677 01:28:39,350 --> 01:28:37,280 i don't know man some of this other 2678 01:28:42,629 --> 01:28:39,360 stuff's gotten weird it's gotten very 2679 01:28:44,229 --> 01:28:42,639 very strange um yeah see everybody else 2680 01:28:45,669 --> 01:28:44,239 is saying that they know the saying you 2681 01:28:47,430 --> 01:28:45,679 know that's the rest of the story have a 2682 01:28:49,590 --> 01:28:47,440 good day yeah so it's funny feeling the 2683 01:28:50,790 --> 01:28:49,600 chat no know who he was or who he wasn't 2684 01:28:53,990 --> 01:28:50,800 um 2685 01:28:56,709 --> 01:28:54,000 is he famous listen here mother trucker 2686 01:28:59,030 --> 01:28:56,719 um but yeah so for yourself then 2687 01:29:01,430 --> 01:28:59,040 do you think with 2688 01:29:03,590 --> 01:29:01,440 what is i guess your 2689 01:29:05,189 --> 01:29:03,600 core message every time you go on to 2690 01:29:06,950 --> 01:29:05,199 bring information to people what what is 2691 01:29:09,910 --> 01:29:06,960 in the back your mind besides bringing 2692 01:29:11,750 --> 01:29:09,920 accurate information is there a larger 2693 01:29:14,149 --> 01:29:11,760 message to be had do you feel in the 2694 01:29:16,070 --> 01:29:14,159 whole of this whole thing for yourself 2695 01:29:18,709 --> 01:29:16,080 i don't know i you know things like i 2696 01:29:21,669 --> 01:29:18,719 like to think is you know 2697 01:29:25,030 --> 01:29:21,679 be an independent thinker you know um 2698 01:29:26,709 --> 01:29:25,040 and trying not to like 2699 01:29:27,910 --> 01:29:26,719 that's one and then you know i call it a 2700 01:29:30,310 --> 01:29:27,920 show for people who are kind of 2701 01:29:32,390 --> 01:29:30,320 skeptical of the mainstream narrative 2702 01:29:33,350 --> 01:29:32,400 you know the story that's being told you 2703 01:29:35,750 --> 01:29:33,360 know 2704 01:29:38,149 --> 01:29:35,760 yeah and it's these things i talk about 2705 01:29:40,629 --> 01:29:38,159 too aren't like secret they're not 2706 01:29:42,470 --> 01:29:40,639 hidden you know it's they're there 2707 01:29:44,870 --> 01:29:42,480 you just have to look in these to these 2708 01:29:46,629 --> 01:29:44,880 documents and you know look to the 2709 01:29:48,629 --> 01:29:46,639 people who are saying these things and 2710 01:29:50,830 --> 01:29:48,639 read about them you know and it's 2711 01:29:53,350 --> 01:29:50,840 it's kind of i've always been very 2712 01:29:55,030 --> 01:29:53,360 educational feeling with all my shows 2713 01:29:57,030 --> 01:29:55,040 like i want people to like kind of learn 2714 01:29:58,470 --> 01:29:57,040 something if they don't or you know 2715 01:30:00,709 --> 01:29:58,480 remind them of something they may have 2716 01:30:02,870 --> 01:30:00,719 read before you know research something 2717 01:30:04,629 --> 01:30:02,880 you know that's always kind of my goal 2718 01:30:06,950 --> 01:30:04,639 you know introduce a new author 2719 01:30:09,910 --> 01:30:06,960 introduce a new you know researcher or 2720 01:30:11,830 --> 01:30:09,920 something you know that's always my goal 2721 01:30:13,270 --> 01:30:11,840 right um and this is there's so much 2722 01:30:14,629 --> 01:30:13,280 information by so many people out there 2723 01:30:15,750 --> 01:30:14,639 good information so i appreciate that 2724 01:30:17,510 --> 01:30:15,760 you're doing that it's kind of what joe 2725 01:30:19,030 --> 01:30:17,520 and ben they love doing here is that you 2726 01:30:20,470 --> 01:30:19,040 know there's always the big the big 2727 01:30:22,070 --> 01:30:20,480 stories the big names that will always 2728 01:30:23,750 --> 01:30:22,080 be out there the the you know the big 2729 01:30:25,030 --> 01:30:23,760 abductees or experiencers but they're 2730 01:30:26,950 --> 01:30:25,040 like hey man there's a lot of other 2731 01:30:29,350 --> 01:30:26,960 people out here experiencing this too 2732 01:30:30,870 --> 01:30:29,360 that just aren't the you know status quo 2733 01:30:31,910 --> 01:30:30,880 here's what we got on the ancient aliens 2734 01:30:33,189 --> 01:30:31,920 kind of deal and i love that they've 2735 01:30:35,110 --> 01:30:33,199 made such a beautiful platform for 2736 01:30:37,110 --> 01:30:35,120 people to just reach out and talk you 2737 01:30:38,950 --> 01:30:37,120 know yes 2738 01:30:41,110 --> 01:30:38,960 uh so 2739 01:30:43,350 --> 01:30:41,120 pat brees here i can't call in so what's 2740 01:30:44,709 --> 01:30:43,360 her favorite flavor of oreos now this is 2741 01:30:47,110 --> 01:30:44,719 a solid question considering there's 2742 01:30:48,470 --> 01:30:47,120 only 10 000 flavors these days 2743 01:30:49,669 --> 01:30:48,480 patrick patrick 2744 01:30:53,030 --> 01:30:49,679 the elf 2745 01:30:55,430 --> 01:30:53,040 um lately i have been i did have lemon 2746 01:30:57,910 --> 01:30:55,440 and i really enjoy lemon right now i 2747 01:31:00,550 --> 01:30:57,920 would like to try the apple cider donut 2748 01:31:02,709 --> 01:31:00,560 flavor but i have my store is sold out 2749 01:31:04,310 --> 01:31:02,719 and i really want to try them 2750 01:31:05,830 --> 01:31:04,320 so i feel like those would be my 2751 01:31:08,390 --> 01:31:05,840 favorite yeah 2752 01:31:10,550 --> 01:31:08,400 when did that become a thing you have to 2753 01:31:12,390 --> 01:31:10,560 hurry because i don't know if they were 2754 01:31:14,310 --> 01:31:12,400 just like early fall they might be 2755 01:31:17,030 --> 01:31:14,320 moving into 2756 01:31:19,030 --> 01:31:17,040 uh more like halloween flavors soon so 2757 01:31:20,870 --> 01:31:19,040 you have to hurry 2758 01:31:22,550 --> 01:31:20,880 uh moe's asking important questions here 2759 01:31:24,149 --> 01:31:22,560 what's her number what's your number and 2760 01:31:25,910 --> 01:31:24,159 then uh you guys we put it at the bottom 2761 01:31:27,510 --> 01:31:25,920 all the room for me i'm just kidding you 2762 01:31:28,470 --> 01:31:27,520 can you can go follow her there 2763 01:31:29,669 --> 01:31:28,480 obviously he said he was just kidding 2764 01:31:31,990 --> 01:31:29,679 for those who are listening in audio 2765 01:31:35,430 --> 01:31:32,000 version 2766 01:31:37,590 --> 01:31:35,440 oh man yeah so i i think too if you um 2767 01:31:39,750 --> 01:31:37,600 man i'm trying to think how 2768 01:31:41,990 --> 01:31:39,760 for your youtube channel faris when you 2769 01:31:44,149 --> 01:31:42,000 so when you go on with you ufo jane do 2770 01:31:45,990 --> 01:31:44,159 you guys do one like consistently or has 2771 01:31:47,350 --> 01:31:46,000 it been a little bit oh it's been a 2772 01:31:48,870 --> 01:31:47,360 while we've kind of talked we haven't 2773 01:31:50,870 --> 01:31:48,880 done it in months i mean it's just 2774 01:31:52,229 --> 01:31:50,880 gotten too crazy out there with all the 2775 01:31:54,470 --> 01:31:52,239 stuff going on 2776 01:31:56,790 --> 01:31:54,480 that you know it that we both haven't 2777 01:31:59,350 --> 01:31:56,800 had time to so we talk about bringing it 2778 01:32:01,830 --> 01:31:59,360 back here and there so stay tuned on 2779 01:32:03,430 --> 01:32:01,840 that one it's been uh it's been months 2780 01:32:04,870 --> 01:32:03,440 maybe six months since we've done an 2781 01:32:07,110 --> 01:32:04,880 episode there 2782 01:32:09,110 --> 01:32:07,120 nice actually she was just messaging me 2783 01:32:11,590 --> 01:32:09,120 a couple minutes ago because i'd reached 2784 01:32:13,030 --> 01:32:11,600 out to her a while ago like before you i 2785 01:32:14,390 --> 01:32:13,040 think or right around the same time 2786 01:32:16,629 --> 01:32:14,400 maybe and she just hadn't been on a 2787 01:32:18,950 --> 01:32:16,639 while so she messaged 2788 01:32:20,229 --> 01:32:18,960 i gotta ask about this this glurp thing 2789 01:32:21,270 --> 01:32:20,239 i'm telling you so i'll ask that one 2790 01:32:22,390 --> 01:32:21,280 more time in the chat we'll give people 2791 01:32:24,470 --> 01:32:22,400 a couple more minutes if anybody wants 2792 01:32:26,229 --> 01:32:24,480 to tune in did anyone else experience 2793 01:32:29,669 --> 01:32:26,239 this and if you guys know who ufo jane 2794 01:32:30,870 --> 01:32:29,679 is uh it's the it's like her 2795 01:32:33,350 --> 01:32:30,880 i won't i don't want to say the word 2796 01:32:34,550 --> 01:32:33,360 mascot but like her lo like he's there 2797 01:32:36,629 --> 01:32:34,560 with her on the show you know what i 2798 01:32:39,510 --> 01:32:36,639 mean like she's her he's the actually i 2799 01:32:42,709 --> 01:32:39,520 mean resident alien of the show you know 2800 01:32:45,590 --> 01:32:44,229 sorry go ahead i interrupted you no he's 2801 01:32:48,310 --> 01:32:45,600 clerp like he goes out to the 2802 01:32:50,950 --> 01:32:48,320 conferences with her you know 2803 01:32:53,910 --> 01:32:50,960 and i feel like it was definitely a show 2804 01:32:57,030 --> 01:32:53,920 in 2000 and like 10 to 14 like four 2805 01:32:58,870 --> 01:32:57,040 seasons it's there is no show with clerk 2806 01:33:01,189 --> 01:32:58,880 man i don't know 2807 01:33:02,950 --> 01:33:01,199 you should talk to her she's your friend 2808 01:33:04,229 --> 01:33:02,960 message her and be like are you writing 2809 01:33:06,470 --> 01:33:04,239 something were you writing something 2810 01:33:07,750 --> 01:33:06,480 like planning on putting a show out you 2811 01:33:09,590 --> 01:33:07,760 know with the mandela stuff maybe it 2812 01:33:11,669 --> 01:33:09,600 already happened and we just forgot i'm 2813 01:33:13,990 --> 01:33:11,679 gonna now i'm just i'm gonna do you know 2814 01:33:17,270 --> 01:33:14,000 glorp has a cell phone too i'm gonna ask 2815 01:33:18,950 --> 01:33:17,280 clerk ask are you based on a i'm gonna i 2816 01:33:21,430 --> 01:33:18,960 mean i'll say like 2817 01:33:23,189 --> 01:33:21,440 just ask also too is a tv show being 2818 01:33:24,870 --> 01:33:23,199 made about you because i feel i'm 2819 01:33:26,709 --> 01:33:24,880 telling you this and we've gone into 2820 01:33:27,910 --> 01:33:26,719 some of the whole like mandela effect 2821 01:33:29,590 --> 01:33:27,920 stuff i don't know what some people feel 2822 01:33:30,709 --> 01:33:29,600 about it some people think it's all just 2823 01:33:31,830 --> 01:33:30,719 a joke 2824 01:33:33,510 --> 01:33:31,840 you know and a lot of people get hung up 2825 01:33:35,110 --> 01:33:33,520 on the stupid ones like and i shouldn't 2826 01:33:36,629 --> 01:33:35,120 say they're stupid because they will get 2827 01:33:38,390 --> 01:33:36,639 you started but the the 2828 01:33:41,350 --> 01:33:38,400 bernstein or berenstein bears but guys 2829 01:33:43,990 --> 01:33:41,360 it goes so much deeper than that so 2830 01:33:46,310 --> 01:33:44,000 freaking weird and sometimes 2831 01:33:48,470 --> 01:33:46,320 and you know there's a lot of 2832 01:33:50,550 --> 01:33:48,480 i was real i was way into mandela effect 2833 01:33:52,149 --> 01:33:50,560 i had a pretty good guest on a few years 2834 01:33:54,870 --> 01:33:52,159 back that was like 2835 01:33:57,510 --> 01:33:54,880 mandela in fact uh specialist um oh 2836 01:33:59,030 --> 01:33:57,520 really yeah s-m-q-a-i 2837 01:34:01,189 --> 01:33:59,040 i've got to put that i gotta re-post 2838 01:34:02,310 --> 01:34:01,199 that one oh was was his name brian 2839 01:34:03,910 --> 01:34:02,320 stavely 2840 01:34:05,590 --> 01:34:03,920 i don't know his real name because i 2841 01:34:08,790 --> 01:34:05,600 feel like that's what his show used to 2842 01:34:10,870 --> 01:34:08,800 be called but maybe not i i don't know 2843 01:34:13,110 --> 01:34:10,880 you should look up brian stavely if you 2844 01:34:16,470 --> 01:34:13,120 want to go like somebody who's covering 2845 01:34:17,590 --> 01:34:16,480 consistently consistently yeah not just 2846 01:34:18,709 --> 01:34:17,600 something that happened 10 years ago 2847 01:34:20,790 --> 01:34:18,719 which i mean those are important but 2848 01:34:23,590 --> 01:34:20,800 staying on top of it um i'll send you 2849 01:34:26,070 --> 01:34:23,600 his email because yes 2850 01:34:28,470 --> 01:34:26,080 he'd be worth having on for sure 2851 01:34:30,550 --> 01:34:28,480 his information is accurate it's not you 2852 01:34:32,390 --> 01:34:30,560 know made up 2853 01:34:33,910 --> 01:34:32,400 stuff well i mean sometimes he'll cover 2854 01:34:35,189 --> 01:34:33,920 goofy stuff but not really yeah he's so 2855 01:34:37,030 --> 01:34:35,199 far beyond that's his thing he's like 2856 01:34:39,110 --> 01:34:37,040 guys we're way beyond the bernstein or 2857 01:34:40,629 --> 01:34:39,120 berenstein bears or you know this or 2858 01:34:42,790 --> 01:34:40,639 that you know beyond symbolism even 2859 01:34:44,629 --> 01:34:42,800 though he acknowledges that he exists 2860 01:34:45,990 --> 01:34:44,639 what he is saying is like 2861 01:34:48,310 --> 01:34:46,000 another thing that i love that he does 2862 01:34:49,910 --> 01:34:48,320 is he doesn't give you the 50 50. he 2863 01:34:51,270 --> 01:34:49,920 lets you he'll just ask a question and 2864 01:34:52,550 --> 01:34:51,280 be like what do you remember and then 2865 01:34:53,510 --> 01:34:52,560 you're just pulling those memories from 2866 01:34:54,310 --> 01:34:53,520 somewhere 2867 01:34:55,669 --> 01:34:54,320 so 2868 01:34:57,109 --> 01:34:55,679 if they're wrong it's like well where 2869 01:34:58,950 --> 01:34:57,119 did you get this memory from you know 2870 01:35:00,310 --> 01:34:58,960 what i mean um 2871 01:35:01,669 --> 01:35:00,320 like i guess we could do a couple with 2872 01:35:02,870 --> 01:35:01,679 you for the fun i'll give people like 2873 01:35:04,390 --> 01:35:02,880 five more minutes that we don't make 2874 01:35:06,790 --> 01:35:04,400 people just sit here and listen to me 2875 01:35:08,709 --> 01:35:06,800 all night but no i'm into the mandela 2876 01:35:10,629 --> 01:35:08,719 effect thing you know i'm like i love it 2877 01:35:13,030 --> 01:35:10,639 because i'm like is it because these 2878 01:35:15,109 --> 01:35:13,040 people are from different timelines do 2879 01:35:18,149 --> 01:35:15,119 they come from different universes so in 2880 01:35:19,109 --> 01:35:18,159 your universe you remember it like x y 2881 01:35:21,830 --> 01:35:19,119 or z 2882 01:35:24,709 --> 01:35:21,840 but in my timeline or my universe 2883 01:35:26,790 --> 01:35:24,719 we remember it a different way and maybe 2884 01:35:28,550 --> 01:35:26,800 we can communicate you know through the 2885 01:35:31,109 --> 01:35:28,560 internet and we're all on different 2886 01:35:31,990 --> 01:35:31,119 timelines who the f actually knows 2887 01:35:33,910 --> 01:35:32,000 yeah 2888 01:35:36,070 --> 01:35:33,920 so with uh 2889 01:35:37,189 --> 01:35:36,080 did you ever play monopoly growing up 2890 01:35:39,590 --> 01:35:37,199 like we'll start with some really simple 2891 01:35:41,189 --> 01:35:39,600 ones okay if you had to describe the 2892 01:35:42,470 --> 01:35:41,199 monopoly man for the neck up like i know 2893 01:35:43,669 --> 01:35:42,480 you're into this stuff so you probably 2894 01:35:45,510 --> 01:35:43,679 know these answers already but if you 2895 01:35:46,790 --> 01:35:45,520 had to describe him from the neck up how 2896 01:35:47,990 --> 01:35:46,800 does he look to you and for those in the 2897 01:35:49,430 --> 01:35:48,000 chat as well 2898 01:35:51,590 --> 01:35:49,440 what do you guys remember 2899 01:35:54,709 --> 01:35:51,600 i think he's got a little mustache right 2900 01:35:56,709 --> 01:35:54,719 and then he's got a top hat right okay 2901 01:35:58,950 --> 01:35:56,719 anything else about it does he have a 2902 01:36:00,790 --> 01:35:58,960 monocle i don't know 2903 01:36:03,109 --> 01:36:00,800 i don't think he does 2904 01:36:04,390 --> 01:36:03,119 you don't think he does okay so i'll see 2905 01:36:06,070 --> 01:36:04,400 what anybody in the chat says it looks 2906 01:36:08,790 --> 01:36:06,080 like a couple people tight that's it 2907 01:36:10,470 --> 01:36:08,800 tammy says it says sometimes i feel 2908 01:36:12,550 --> 01:36:10,480 the mandela has been talked about so 2909 01:36:14,229 --> 01:36:12,560 much that now i don't even know what to 2910 01:36:17,270 --> 01:36:14,239 do or remember you know 2911 01:36:20,470 --> 01:36:17,280 that's fair it gets very very weird um 2912 01:36:22,709 --> 01:36:20,480 zero cool says round head mustache and 2913 01:36:25,510 --> 01:36:22,719 monocle and also he threw on hat at the 2914 01:36:27,030 --> 01:36:25,520 end yeah so that's how i remember it and 2915 01:36:28,790 --> 01:36:27,040 if i had to bet like if i was a betting 2916 01:36:30,709 --> 01:36:28,800 man you're like hey you have to do this 2917 01:36:32,149 --> 01:36:30,719 one thing or the other 2918 01:36:33,830 --> 01:36:32,159 what was it i would have said the 2919 01:36:34,709 --> 01:36:33,840 monocle for sure like that's the one 2920 01:36:36,310 --> 01:36:34,719 that stuck out to me because i remember 2921 01:36:37,830 --> 01:36:36,320 him with the money bag right he was like 2922 01:36:40,709 --> 01:36:37,840 yeah right isn't he with a money bag and 2923 01:36:43,030 --> 01:36:40,719 he's rocking and he he has a hat on and 2924 01:36:44,310 --> 01:36:43,040 he's got a little mustache yeah no but i 2925 01:36:46,229 --> 01:36:44,320 remember like the monocle because he had 2926 01:36:47,510 --> 01:36:46,239 like the chain was hanging off of it but 2927 01:36:50,310 --> 01:36:47,520 then 2928 01:36:51,350 --> 01:36:50,320 yes but see space cow here says it and i 2929 01:36:55,350 --> 01:36:51,360 was like 2930 01:36:57,189 --> 01:36:55,360 am i thinking of mr peanut 2931 01:36:58,629 --> 01:36:57,199 yeah him and mr yeah so space cow you 2932 01:36:59,350 --> 01:36:58,639 think that they both do but apparently 2933 01:37:01,669 --> 01:36:59,360 the 2934 01:37:03,350 --> 01:37:01,679 mr you know monopoly man here has never 2935 01:37:05,910 --> 01:37:03,360 had one ever 2936 01:37:07,270 --> 01:37:05,920 never had it it's just very strange like 2937 01:37:09,669 --> 01:37:07,280 and the other thing like also hit on 2938 01:37:11,750 --> 01:37:09,679 that thing on that topic 2939 01:37:13,590 --> 01:37:11,760 yeah mr peanut 100 2940 01:37:15,030 --> 01:37:13,600 yeah it's weird 2941 01:37:16,950 --> 01:37:15,040 and then the other one that gets weird 2942 01:37:18,229 --> 01:37:16,960 is um 2943 01:37:20,709 --> 01:37:18,239 he uh 2944 01:37:21,910 --> 01:37:20,719 the money symbol so like staying with 2945 01:37:23,510 --> 01:37:21,920 monopoly like how would you draw the 2946 01:37:24,709 --> 01:37:23,520 money symbol jess 2947 01:37:26,149 --> 01:37:24,719 like if you're doing it right now how do 2948 01:37:27,669 --> 01:37:26,159 you draw it and you guys put the money 2949 01:37:29,350 --> 01:37:27,679 symbol in the chat 2950 01:37:31,750 --> 01:37:29,360 s with okay 2951 01:37:33,590 --> 01:37:31,760 two lines two lines okay 2952 01:37:35,750 --> 01:37:33,600 i agree that's that's what i remember uh 2953 01:37:36,790 --> 01:37:35,760 ben from the ufo garage podcast he's 2954 01:37:38,390 --> 01:37:36,800 kind of a big deal around here some 2955 01:37:40,870 --> 01:37:38,400 people know him he's paul you know small 2956 01:37:43,270 --> 01:37:40,880 fry here in the chat but uh it was jim 2957 01:37:46,310 --> 01:37:43,280 carrey's impersonation and ace venture 2958 01:37:49,109 --> 01:37:46,320 when nature calls that confused me 2959 01:37:50,950 --> 01:37:49,119 yeah so it's funny uh because i believe 2960 01:37:53,590 --> 01:37:50,960 he had he had the monocle and he did 2961 01:37:57,350 --> 01:37:53,600 that so um yeah jess look at your 2962 01:38:01,030 --> 01:37:59,669 oh it has one line yeah that's what 2963 01:38:03,030 --> 01:38:01,040 stephen 2964 01:38:05,189 --> 01:38:03,040 i don't remember that and so this is 2965 01:38:07,109 --> 01:38:05,199 what like ryan stapley calls leftover 2966 01:38:08,310 --> 01:38:07,119 residue where people that 2967 01:38:09,990 --> 01:38:08,320 are remembering it differently that's 2968 01:38:12,070 --> 01:38:10,000 why like wwe wrestlers and all these 2969 01:38:14,229 --> 01:38:12,080 guys had two slashes like how would you 2970 01:38:16,390 --> 01:38:14,239 write the scent symbol 2971 01:38:18,149 --> 01:38:16,400 with one line with one line that's what 2972 01:38:20,709 --> 01:38:18,159 i was taught right money was two cent 2973 01:38:22,950 --> 01:38:20,719 was one now it's reversed now it's c 2974 01:38:25,910 --> 01:38:22,960 and it's two slashes and the c is 2975 01:38:27,750 --> 01:38:25,920 relocated it's slightly changed now 2976 01:38:30,390 --> 01:38:27,760 what those are just simple ones like 2977 01:38:33,830 --> 01:38:30,400 this guy goes way deeper than this stuff 2978 01:38:35,590 --> 01:38:33,840 like way harder um he's we had him on 2979 01:38:37,189 --> 01:38:35,600 like our show when we did for the i do 2980 01:38:39,109 --> 01:38:37,199 with my brother over there and he was on 2981 01:38:41,189 --> 01:38:39,119 for almost three hours 2982 01:38:43,430 --> 01:38:41,199 holy crap 2983 01:38:45,669 --> 01:38:43,440 but you need it almost you can do it on 2984 01:38:47,270 --> 01:38:45,679 radio you totally can but it would 2985 01:38:48,870 --> 01:38:47,280 almost help to do on youtube because he 2986 01:38:50,629 --> 01:38:48,880 could show like while he's doing he has 2987 01:38:52,149 --> 01:38:50,639 the green screen he'll ask a question 2988 01:38:53,270 --> 01:38:52,159 and then you're seeing it in real time 2989 01:38:54,550 --> 01:38:53,280 you know what i mean you're like oh my 2990 01:38:56,390 --> 01:38:54,560 god oh okay we're supposed to do with 2991 01:38:58,629 --> 01:38:56,400 that you know 2992 01:39:00,470 --> 01:38:58,639 no it makes sense some peop some things 2993 01:39:04,070 --> 01:39:00,480 make sense to do on video too if they 2994 01:39:05,030 --> 01:39:04,080 have a video presentation yeah yep yeah 2995 01:39:06,550 --> 01:39:05,040 he does 2996 01:39:07,830 --> 01:39:06,560 he's into a lot of the human control 2997 01:39:09,430 --> 01:39:07,840 stuff he doesn't say he has all the 2998 01:39:10,830 --> 01:39:09,440 answers he just says that listen 2999 01:39:12,420 --> 01:39:10,840 something's 3000 01:39:13,910 --> 01:39:12,430 up dude 3001 01:39:15,189 --> 01:39:13,920 [Music] 3002 01:39:16,390 --> 01:39:15,199 that goes really like i don't want to 3003 01:39:17,669 --> 01:39:16,400 ruin them for some of these people 3004 01:39:19,109 --> 01:39:17,679 because like it goes 3005 01:39:21,030 --> 01:39:19,119 uh chad smith i don't think he's in here 3006 01:39:22,790 --> 01:39:21,040 last night but the money symbol one blew 3007 01:39:24,629 --> 01:39:22,800 his mind it really bothered him like the 3008 01:39:26,629 --> 01:39:24,639 whole bothers me 3009 01:39:28,870 --> 01:39:26,639 oh what about this one um 3010 01:39:30,310 --> 01:39:28,880 so she says what is this one it says uh 3011 01:39:31,830 --> 01:39:30,320 oh i'm sorry she was answering a 3012 01:39:32,790 --> 01:39:31,840 question so what about this one i'll ask 3013 01:39:34,470 --> 01:39:32,800 you i'll leave you with this one i'll 3014 01:39:36,070 --> 01:39:34,480 let you get out of here tonight did you 3015 01:39:38,470 --> 01:39:36,080 watch disney growing up like did you 3016 01:39:40,470 --> 01:39:38,480 watch any yes okay some 3017 01:39:42,629 --> 01:39:40,480 okay do you remember like say the 90s 3018 01:39:44,629 --> 01:39:42,639 era disney cartoons 3019 01:39:46,310 --> 01:39:44,639 when the movie would begin and they 3020 01:39:47,910 --> 01:39:46,320 would do their presentation of the waltz 3021 01:39:49,109 --> 01:39:47,920 as any symbol do you remember that 3022 01:39:50,709 --> 01:39:49,119 process of what that looked like 3023 01:39:53,109 --> 01:39:50,719 describe that to me in your words what 3024 01:39:55,669 --> 01:39:53,119 happens i remember okay so like the 3025 01:39:57,669 --> 01:39:55,679 intro for the movies right wasn't it 3026 01:39:59,430 --> 01:39:57,679 like tinkerbell would come up and fly 3027 01:40:00,790 --> 01:39:59,440 and then like go like boom with her 3028 01:40:02,149 --> 01:40:00,800 little 3029 01:40:04,870 --> 01:40:02,159 fairy stick 3030 01:40:06,390 --> 01:40:04,880 magic wand and then the castle would 3031 01:40:08,709 --> 01:40:06,400 like 3032 01:40:11,270 --> 01:40:08,719 materialize under where the fairy wand 3033 01:40:12,390 --> 01:40:11,280 did it yeah do you remember and unless 3034 01:40:13,750 --> 01:40:12,400 this is weird questions i'm asking i'm 3035 01:40:15,350 --> 01:40:13,760 just i don't want to answer i want it to 3036 01:40:16,790 --> 01:40:15,360 be your own turn but do you remember did 3037 01:40:17,910 --> 01:40:16,800 she do anything when she flew out do you 3038 01:40:19,109 --> 01:40:17,920 remember like a flight pattern and 3039 01:40:20,629 --> 01:40:19,119 that's a weird question to ask but do 3040 01:40:23,030 --> 01:40:20,639 you remember what kind of flight so she 3041 01:40:25,030 --> 01:40:23,040 would so she would go ding and then 3042 01:40:27,830 --> 01:40:25,040 she'd fly probably like 3043 01:40:28,950 --> 01:40:27,840 towards off to the left okay 3044 01:40:30,550 --> 01:40:28,960 so yes 3045 01:40:31,669 --> 01:40:30,560 that's pretty much what i remember too i 3046 01:40:32,790 --> 01:40:31,679 remember her coming in from the right 3047 01:40:34,550 --> 01:40:32,800 right if i'm looking at the tv screen 3048 01:40:35,910 --> 01:40:34,560 she'd come in from the right she'd fly 3049 01:40:38,790 --> 01:40:35,920 up and she'd do like a figure eight 3050 01:40:40,550 --> 01:40:38,800 symbol over the top of the castle and 3051 01:40:42,629 --> 01:40:40,560 like you said sprinkle right and the 3052 01:40:44,070 --> 01:40:42,639 fairy dust would reveal walt disney 3053 01:40:46,310 --> 01:40:44,080 right and then she'd come back down to 3054 01:40:48,790 --> 01:40:46,320 the bottom left and then she'd fly away 3055 01:40:51,109 --> 01:40:48,800 that's never existed that's never 3056 01:40:52,470 --> 01:40:51,119 happened where did that come from 3057 01:40:54,550 --> 01:40:52,480 i don't know right because i mean that's 3058 01:40:56,070 --> 01:40:54,560 your memory and that's a memory i share 3059 01:40:57,030 --> 01:40:56,080 but now she just comes out she flies 3060 01:40:59,189 --> 01:40:57,040 straight from the right side of your 3061 01:41:01,030 --> 01:40:59,199 screen to your left she looks back and 3062 01:41:02,229 --> 01:41:01,040 she dots the eye she doesn't do anything 3063 01:41:03,430 --> 01:41:02,239 with the castle 3064 01:41:04,550 --> 01:41:03,440 sometimes 3065 01:41:06,790 --> 01:41:04,560 there's been a couple updates where 3066 01:41:08,790 --> 01:41:06,800 she'll shoot one like towards the castle 3067 01:41:10,550 --> 01:41:08,800 and it makes the spark but that holder 3068 01:41:12,149 --> 01:41:10,560 flying around the top of the castle it's 3069 01:41:14,790 --> 01:41:12,159 never existed now 3070 01:41:17,109 --> 01:41:14,800 nobody has that there's so many disney 3071 01:41:18,709 --> 01:41:17,119 nerds they would know 3072 01:41:19,590 --> 01:41:18,719 this is he had people write in him so 3073 01:41:20,470 --> 01:41:19,600 what he would do and it's hard when 3074 01:41:22,229 --> 01:41:20,480 you're asking a question like that right 3075 01:41:23,189 --> 01:41:22,239 to do so he said he asked people to like 3076 01:41:26,629 --> 01:41:23,199 draw 3077 01:41:28,390 --> 01:41:26,639 the route that you remember 3078 01:41:30,830 --> 01:41:28,400 an unbelievable amount of people sent 3079 01:41:32,950 --> 01:41:30,840 him that that same flight 3080 01:41:34,870 --> 01:41:32,960 pattern never existed now it's only ever 3081 01:41:36,149 --> 01:41:34,880 been her flying out doing the one thing 3082 01:41:38,310 --> 01:41:36,159 that's it 3083 01:41:39,830 --> 01:41:38,320 um yeah it's and i do it no justice like 3084 01:41:41,669 --> 01:41:39,840 this guy does really good i'll make sure 3085 01:41:43,430 --> 01:41:41,679 i send you his email because it's yeah 3086 01:41:45,430 --> 01:41:43,440 please pretty crazy 3087 01:41:47,189 --> 01:41:45,440 that's nice so all right guys well i 3088 01:41:50,070 --> 01:41:47,199 don't want to hold jess up here too long 3089 01:41:51,109 --> 01:41:50,080 uh i know as always we have let's see 3090 01:41:52,950 --> 01:41:51,119 what do we got here i'll throw it here 3091 01:41:54,870 --> 01:41:52,960 on the bottom we already have spaced out 3092 01:41:55,990 --> 01:41:54,880 radio tonight i don't know man i should 3093 01:41:57,590 --> 01:41:56,000 have looked this up i should have been 3094 01:41:59,109 --> 01:41:57,600 ready for lynn but lynn wellington will 3095 01:42:02,310 --> 01:41:59,119 be on there i don't remember who she has 3096 01:42:05,109 --> 01:42:02,320 tonight but you guys can catch them at 3097 01:42:08,550 --> 01:42:05,119 12 a.m eastern central standard time or 3098 01:42:09,990 --> 01:42:08,560 9 p.m pacific standard time for you guys 3099 01:42:11,669 --> 01:42:10,000 um 3100 01:42:13,990 --> 01:42:11,679 let's see so john hudson actually sent 3101 01:42:16,550 --> 01:42:14,000 me something in regards to 3102 01:42:17,910 --> 01:42:16,560 the money symbol john if you want to if 3103 01:42:19,270 --> 01:42:17,920 you wanted you could hop on i don't know 3104 01:42:20,550 --> 01:42:19,280 if you're busy or not if you wanted to 3105 01:42:22,229 --> 01:42:20,560 say hi to her but 3106 01:42:25,109 --> 01:42:22,239 he said that it has to do in regards to 3107 01:42:26,390 --> 01:42:25,119 what font you're using on the uh the 3108 01:42:28,709 --> 01:42:26,400 money so that's interesting there are 3109 01:42:30,149 --> 01:42:28,719 different fonts and that is that is true 3110 01:42:31,669 --> 01:42:30,159 yeah i'm seeing one that has the two 3111 01:42:34,149 --> 01:42:31,679 slashes and then the one that has one 3112 01:42:37,030 --> 01:42:34,159 and single so interesting 3113 01:42:38,709 --> 01:42:37,040 my keyboard has one that's all mine has 3114 01:42:40,390 --> 01:42:38,719 two because i remember when we did it 3115 01:42:41,590 --> 01:42:40,400 and he had me write it out i was like i 3116 01:42:43,189 --> 01:42:41,600 got this and he said look at your 3117 01:42:45,350 --> 01:42:43,199 keyboard and i was like no 3118 01:42:47,669 --> 01:42:45,360 that's weird right 3119 01:42:50,470 --> 01:42:47,679 it's so weird like i'm looking like 3120 01:42:52,550 --> 01:42:50,480 weird when did it do that 3121 01:42:54,229 --> 01:42:52,560 yeah i don't you know what okay this is 3122 01:42:55,270 --> 01:42:54,239 one last fun question i wanted to 3123 01:42:57,030 --> 01:42:55,280 appreciate 3124 01:42:58,790 --> 01:42:57,040 and i promise i'll let you go 3125 01:43:01,350 --> 01:42:58,800 what are your thoughts for the fun of it 3126 01:43:02,550 --> 01:43:01,360 what are your thoughts on 3127 01:43:04,709 --> 01:43:02,560 um 3128 01:43:06,470 --> 01:43:04,719 like time travel and then that being 3129 01:43:09,510 --> 01:43:06,480 tied into the simpsons what do you think 3130 01:43:11,669 --> 01:43:09,520 he knows about the future because it 3131 01:43:13,910 --> 01:43:11,679 gets weird so what are your thoughts 3132 01:43:15,830 --> 01:43:13,920 it's weird though but it gets into that 3133 01:43:18,950 --> 01:43:15,840 whole like 3134 01:43:21,189 --> 01:43:18,960 is there like this kind of like 3135 01:43:24,550 --> 01:43:21,199 consciousness like 3136 01:43:25,830 --> 01:43:24,560 thought space idea space you know that 3137 01:43:28,550 --> 01:43:25,840 you know maybe 3138 01:43:31,590 --> 01:43:28,560 some sort of space that people in the 3139 01:43:33,669 --> 01:43:31,600 creative state are able to access 3140 01:43:35,750 --> 01:43:33,679 and sometimes when they're doing these 3141 01:43:36,790 --> 01:43:35,760 things and making these stories you know 3142 01:43:38,629 --> 01:43:36,800 and 3143 01:43:41,910 --> 01:43:38,639 that collective maybe sort of 3144 01:43:46,149 --> 01:43:43,910 just kind of shows that event or 3145 01:43:48,390 --> 01:43:46,159 something like for example you know they 3146 01:43:50,229 --> 01:43:48,400 talk and there's a simpsons 3147 01:43:52,470 --> 01:43:50,239 where they go to new york and there's 3148 01:43:55,270 --> 01:43:52,480 like it's there's a nine and then 3149 01:43:57,270 --> 01:43:55,280 there's the twin towers like on the in 3150 01:43:59,030 --> 01:43:57,280 the drawing and it's 3151 01:44:00,550 --> 01:43:59,040 it's not part of this big part of the 3152 01:44:02,870 --> 01:44:00,560 story because i believe they're going to 3153 01:44:05,030 --> 01:44:02,880 new york but the imagery of the nine and 3154 01:44:07,109 --> 01:44:05,040 the 11 with the twin towers you know 3155 01:44:09,510 --> 01:44:07,119 things like that or earlier where 3156 01:44:10,629 --> 01:44:09,520 someone mentioned the x-files episode 3157 01:44:12,950 --> 01:44:10,639 you know 3158 01:44:15,430 --> 01:44:12,960 like are these predictive programming 3159 01:44:19,430 --> 01:44:15,440 because these are things that the uh 3160 01:44:20,950 --> 01:44:19,440 those powers that the people in power 3161 01:44:23,910 --> 01:44:20,960 have to tell us because that's what 3162 01:44:26,149 --> 01:44:23,920 they're doing in some occulty way or 3163 01:44:27,990 --> 01:44:26,159 are these writers like 3164 01:44:30,310 --> 01:44:28,000 tapping into something where you know 3165 01:44:32,390 --> 01:44:30,320 these things are going to happen anyways 3166 01:44:34,470 --> 01:44:32,400 and they just happen to include this 3167 01:44:36,870 --> 01:44:34,480 part in their story you know like the 3168 01:44:39,109 --> 01:44:36,880 simpsons mm-hmm 3169 01:44:40,550 --> 01:44:39,119 yeah i think and i could give it to 3170 01:44:41,990 --> 01:44:40,560 where like the one you're talking about 3171 01:44:43,430 --> 01:44:42,000 where i 3172 01:44:45,270 --> 01:44:43,440 if i'm remembering it correctly it's 3173 01:44:47,030 --> 01:44:45,280 actually just an image on a desk where 3174 01:44:48,790 --> 01:44:47,040 it says words in the newspaper right so 3175 01:44:50,550 --> 01:44:48,800 like you said it wasn't really like 3176 01:44:52,229 --> 01:44:50,560 it wasn't an in-your-face like guys 3177 01:44:54,629 --> 01:44:52,239 we're gonna tell you this right 3178 01:44:56,870 --> 01:44:54,639 but the ones that really bother me and 3179 01:44:58,870 --> 01:44:56,880 there's several there's like so many of 3180 01:45:01,750 --> 01:44:58,880 them at last i checked there were 23 3181 01:45:03,669 --> 01:45:01,760 confirmed and in the year 2020 alone 3182 01:45:06,310 --> 01:45:03,679 they added another nine i think it's 3183 01:45:09,030 --> 01:45:06,320 like 34 now that are confirmed like 3184 01:45:10,950 --> 01:45:09,040 these happen back in the 90s early 2000s 3185 01:45:12,950 --> 01:45:10,960 and stuff that's happening now 3186 01:45:14,709 --> 01:45:12,960 one of the big ones being 3187 01:45:16,149 --> 01:45:14,719 it is i mean i don't want to say his 3188 01:45:17,590 --> 01:45:16,159 name out loud because who knows i don't 3189 01:45:19,350 --> 01:45:17,600 know if there's weird rules with youtube 3190 01:45:20,149 --> 01:45:19,360 anymore but the former president that we 3191 01:45:22,310 --> 01:45:20,159 had 3192 01:45:24,229 --> 01:45:22,320 there's one that has the exact depiction 3193 01:45:25,830 --> 01:45:24,239 i get if it was close but they had that 3194 01:45:27,109 --> 01:45:25,840 exact depiction of him coming down the 3195 01:45:28,950 --> 01:45:27,119 escalator 3196 01:45:30,390 --> 01:45:28,960 the person raising i mean they're side 3197 01:45:32,870 --> 01:45:30,400 by side they played the cartoon they 3198 01:45:34,709 --> 01:45:32,880 played the live feed it is it is as if 3199 01:45:36,390 --> 01:45:34,719 someone took that picture that video and 3200 01:45:38,709 --> 01:45:36,400 made it a cartoon 3201 01:45:40,629 --> 01:45:38,719 and that happened 3202 01:45:42,070 --> 01:45:40,639 see into the future 3203 01:45:43,830 --> 01:45:42,080 maybe he that's that's where the one guy 3204 01:45:45,350 --> 01:45:43,840 was listening to he's like dude i cannot 3205 01:45:48,229 --> 01:45:45,360 remember does anybody in the chat know 3206 01:45:49,669 --> 01:45:48,239 the writer of of the uh of the simpsons 3207 01:45:51,270 --> 01:45:49,679 i should know this and i don't know i 3208 01:45:53,430 --> 01:45:51,280 think there's different people who have 3209 01:45:54,629 --> 01:45:53,440 written it at different times and 3210 01:45:56,470 --> 01:45:54,639 sometimes they have different people 3211 01:45:58,790 --> 01:45:56,480 come in and write these episodes because 3212 01:46:00,149 --> 01:45:58,800 like when i was in film school we had we 3213 01:46:01,830 --> 01:46:00,159 had a couple people come in who had 3214 01:46:03,590 --> 01:46:01,840 written episodes of the simpsons but 3215 01:46:05,189 --> 01:46:03,600 they weren't like staff writers you know 3216 01:46:06,149 --> 01:46:05,199 what i mean 3217 01:46:07,910 --> 01:46:06,159 so 3218 01:46:11,030 --> 01:46:07,920 the one that really bothers me though 3219 01:46:13,109 --> 01:46:11,040 like the the the one that sold me i was 3220 01:46:14,390 --> 01:46:13,119 like all right i'm in 100 this guy's 3221 01:46:16,870 --> 01:46:14,400 this guy's either got a way of seeing 3222 01:46:19,189 --> 01:46:16,880 the future or he is a time traveler was 3223 01:46:21,189 --> 01:46:19,199 when homer simpson goes up 3224 01:46:23,350 --> 01:46:21,199 and he writes 3225 01:46:26,470 --> 01:46:23,360 the god particle out he wrote out the 3226 01:46:29,430 --> 01:46:26,480 the higgs boson he wrote oh yes exact 3227 01:46:31,350 --> 01:46:29,440 and i mean the exact equation so you're 3228 01:46:32,390 --> 01:46:31,360 telling me in a kid's cartoon homer 3229 01:46:33,510 --> 01:46:32,400 simpson 3230 01:46:34,709 --> 01:46:33,520 then it's like an episode where he gets 3231 01:46:35,990 --> 01:46:34,719 i can't get hit in the head or if he 3232 01:46:36,950 --> 01:46:36,000 gets spit by spider it makes him super 3233 01:46:39,990 --> 01:46:36,960 smart 3234 01:46:41,830 --> 01:46:40,000 and and i think this was a 99 he goes up 3235 01:46:43,910 --> 01:46:41,840 and writes out the exact equation for 3236 01:46:46,629 --> 01:46:43,920 the higgs boson that we didn't discover 3237 01:46:49,030 --> 01:46:46,639 until 2012 and took 3238 01:46:50,470 --> 01:46:49,040 i mean a multitude of scientists and 3239 01:46:52,470 --> 01:46:50,480 astrophysicists and all these different 3240 01:46:54,470 --> 01:46:52,480 mathematicians to figure out and you're 3241 01:46:56,149 --> 01:46:54,480 telling me the writer who court he did 3242 01:46:58,310 --> 01:46:56,159 work with an astronomer as a friend to 3243 01:47:01,430 --> 01:46:58,320 help him do this but he just happened to 3244 01:47:02,870 --> 01:47:01,440 write the exact equation out i mean you 3245 01:47:04,390 --> 01:47:02,880 could take the equation he wrote on this 3246 01:47:06,550 --> 01:47:04,400 chalkboard in the cartoon and that is 3247 01:47:08,390 --> 01:47:06,560 the equation 3248 01:47:10,790 --> 01:47:08,400 what are the chances of homer simpson 3249 01:47:12,709 --> 01:47:10,800 doing that to me it's just 3250 01:47:15,510 --> 01:47:12,719 i don't know that this it's too on the 3251 01:47:17,590 --> 01:47:15,520 nose i guess um for a like you know for 3252 01:47:19,990 --> 01:47:17,600 a cartoon like it was like a prime time 3253 01:47:21,669 --> 01:47:20,000 cartoon why does homer know this you 3254 01:47:23,109 --> 01:47:21,679 know mm-hmm 3255 01:47:25,189 --> 01:47:23,119 yeah i'm gonna see if i don't have to 3256 01:47:27,750 --> 01:47:25,199 have like a little little clip of it and 3257 01:47:29,510 --> 01:47:27,760 i'll share it here uh 3258 01:47:31,109 --> 01:47:29,520 oh okay looks like we have one person 3259 01:47:33,830 --> 01:47:31,119 too that hopped in i know we got about 3260 01:47:36,149 --> 01:47:33,840 another 13 minutes here with uh 3261 01:47:39,430 --> 01:47:36,159 with uh jess before she gets out of here 3262 01:47:41,590 --> 01:47:39,440 but uh so jme patton welcome to the show 3263 01:47:42,709 --> 01:47:41,600 brother thank you for hopping in wow 3264 01:47:45,430 --> 01:47:42,719 hello 3265 01:47:47,590 --> 01:47:45,440 i can't believe i got in oh heck yeah 3266 01:47:50,070 --> 01:47:47,600 yeah nice to meet you hitchhiking out 3267 01:47:51,270 --> 01:47:50,080 here listen i'm driving me 3268 01:47:52,390 --> 01:47:51,280 we're heading back towards the garage 3269 01:47:53,750 --> 01:47:52,400 but we're picking up hitchhikers that's 3270 01:47:54,629 --> 01:47:53,760 what always happens in the end i like 3271 01:47:57,990 --> 01:47:54,639 people 3272 01:47:59,189 --> 01:47:58,000 and and this is a great way for us to 3273 01:48:00,310 --> 01:47:59,199 you know i get to see you guys writing 3274 01:48:01,430 --> 01:48:00,320 and we all hang out in the chats we 3275 01:48:03,350 --> 01:48:01,440 should you know talk with each other but 3276 01:48:04,470 --> 01:48:03,360 to actually see each other in person 3277 01:48:08,790 --> 01:48:04,480 it's a great way to connect the 3278 01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:13,510 i just wanted you to 3279 01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:17,189 are we breaking up on you a little 3280 01:48:21,669 --> 01:48:19,430 um yeah sound good we can hear you yeah 3281 01:48:23,189 --> 01:48:21,679 you sound clear super clear i just 3282 01:48:26,310 --> 01:48:23,199 wanted jess to talk a little bit more 3283 01:48:29,030 --> 01:48:26,320 about project mockingbird 3284 01:48:31,510 --> 01:48:29,040 ah project mockingbird i feel like you 3285 01:48:34,149 --> 01:48:31,520 know it's it's just kind of changed and 3286 01:48:36,870 --> 01:48:34,159 it's still here it's on the internet and 3287 01:48:38,390 --> 01:48:36,880 i mean all it was was studying it right 3288 01:48:41,430 --> 01:48:38,400 now 3289 01:48:43,510 --> 01:48:41,440 it's amazing how little they can 3290 01:48:44,950 --> 01:48:43,520 actually put out and these things get 3291 01:48:46,550 --> 01:48:44,960 retweeted 3292 01:48:49,350 --> 01:48:46,560 and you know they say it only takes like 3293 01:48:52,149 --> 01:48:49,360 11 users to push something on social 3294 01:48:54,310 --> 01:48:52,159 media and then it will get retweeted and 3295 01:48:56,629 --> 01:48:54,320 pushed out and then these ideas also get 3296 01:48:59,189 --> 01:48:56,639 pushed out by bots now 3297 01:49:01,189 --> 01:48:59,199 so you can see like the project 3298 01:49:03,350 --> 01:49:01,199 mockingbird thing 3299 01:49:05,270 --> 01:49:03,360 is totally social media then you see the 3300 01:49:07,030 --> 01:49:05,280 same type of post and when people keep 3301 01:49:09,430 --> 01:49:07,040 seeing the same kind of information 3302 01:49:11,189 --> 01:49:09,440 right they can't they they keep kind of 3303 01:49:12,950 --> 01:49:11,199 gets in their head like when people are 3304 01:49:14,870 --> 01:49:12,960 marketing stuff to you 3305 01:49:16,870 --> 01:49:14,880 so you know staring at these social 3306 01:49:19,270 --> 01:49:16,880 media posts you know i think it's their 3307 01:49:21,109 --> 01:49:19,280 new way of kind of control and then when 3308 01:49:23,669 --> 01:49:21,119 you go out there in real life and talk 3309 01:49:26,550 --> 01:49:23,679 to people about these topics people just 3310 01:49:29,430 --> 01:49:26,560 repeat what they read online 3311 01:49:35,189 --> 01:49:29,440 so it's still 100 3312 01:49:38,870 --> 01:49:36,870 yeah 3313 01:49:40,070 --> 01:49:38,880 it's very strange to how when they when 3314 01:49:41,830 --> 01:49:40,080 project mockingbird the way they got 3315 01:49:45,109 --> 01:49:41,840 involved as far as tapping in on the 3316 01:49:46,390 --> 01:49:45,119 mainstream media and kind of controlling 3317 01:49:48,950 --> 01:49:46,400 in a sense whether they want to say it 3318 01:49:50,790 --> 01:49:48,960 was or not uh the information that was 3319 01:49:51,990 --> 01:49:50,800 flowing out not only to foreign you know 3320 01:49:53,189 --> 01:49:52,000 entities but 3321 01:49:55,270 --> 01:49:53,199 i would say one would have to look at 3322 01:49:56,390 --> 01:49:55,280 domestically here how the information is 3323 01:49:58,870 --> 01:49:56,400 flowing out 3324 01:50:01,109 --> 01:49:58,880 um that is one that and it's not a 3325 01:50:03,270 --> 01:50:01,119 conspiracy that's you can go on the cia 3326 01:50:04,470 --> 01:50:03,280 database and print that pdf off and read 3327 01:50:05,430 --> 01:50:04,480 all about it 3328 01:50:06,790 --> 01:50:05,440 um 3329 01:50:08,229 --> 01:50:06,800 but that's it that's a great question 3330 01:50:09,350 --> 01:50:08,239 there pat i definitely appreciate that 3331 01:50:11,350 --> 01:50:09,360 and i know jess and i were talking about 3332 01:50:13,430 --> 01:50:11,360 that the other day uh yeah just 3333 01:50:15,990 --> 01:50:13,440 messaging hopefully it was ranting so 3334 01:50:18,470 --> 01:50:16,000 hard to you that night you ranted it was 3335 01:50:21,990 --> 01:50:18,480 a i mean it was like this much of it was 3336 01:50:24,229 --> 01:50:22,000 a full screen he sent me of a rant he's 3337 01:50:27,910 --> 01:50:24,239 like oh my god i'm sorry i wrote a book 3338 01:50:30,390 --> 01:50:29,669 uh 3339 01:50:34,310 --> 01:50:30,400 so 3340 01:50:35,430 --> 01:50:34,320 question that you have uh in regards to 3341 01:50:37,750 --> 01:50:35,440 to either 3342 01:50:39,750 --> 01:50:37,760 the subject itself or to you well i'd 3343 01:50:42,950 --> 01:50:39,760 love to talk more but i'm getting so 3344 01:50:44,550 --> 01:50:42,960 much echo from you guys 3345 01:50:46,709 --> 01:50:44,560 very hard 3346 01:50:49,750 --> 01:50:46,719 to understand you guys 3347 01:50:51,510 --> 01:50:49,760 through my through my headphones 3348 01:50:53,589 --> 01:50:51,520 no problem brother well we appreciate 3349 01:50:55,189 --> 01:50:53,599 you coming on um if there's any anything 3350 01:50:56,950 --> 01:50:55,199 you want to say to jess heading out here 3351 01:50:58,709 --> 01:50:56,960 feel free and we really appreciate the 3352 01:51:01,510 --> 01:50:58,719 support of the show and obviously other 3353 01:51:02,709 --> 01:51:01,520 shows that you support as well 3354 01:51:05,109 --> 01:51:02,719 i just 3355 01:51:07,109 --> 01:51:05,119 thank you for the opportunity 3356 01:51:08,550 --> 01:51:07,119 well thank you thank you for chatting 3357 01:51:09,910 --> 01:51:08,560 with us 3358 01:51:13,830 --> 01:51:09,920 thank you 3359 01:51:18,229 --> 01:51:16,709 um yeah so 3360 01:51:19,430 --> 01:51:18,239 do you get the uh you know because this 3361 01:51:20,870 --> 01:51:19,440 is one of the great things you guys too 3362 01:51:22,229 --> 01:51:20,880 if you check out jess with the rogue 3363 01:51:23,430 --> 01:51:22,239 report you also when you're doing your 3364 01:51:25,109 --> 01:51:23,440 live broadcast you also have your 3365 01:51:27,589 --> 01:51:25,119 discord which i didn't i don't have that 3366 01:51:28,629 --> 01:51:27,599 listed in the the description but 3367 01:51:29,830 --> 01:51:28,639 people will if you want to check out 3368 01:51:30,870 --> 01:51:29,840 that way and through spreaker too that's 3369 01:51:33,030 --> 01:51:30,880 a cool way they can interact with you 3370 01:51:34,790 --> 01:51:33,040 correctly you're on the air yes while 3371 01:51:37,589 --> 01:51:34,800 are on the air we have a speaker chat 3372 01:51:39,750 --> 01:51:37,599 and we have a discord chat the fringe fm 3373 01:51:42,229 --> 01:51:39,760 also has a station chat you know where 3374 01:51:43,750 --> 01:51:42,239 people can come in and and chat about 3375 01:51:46,149 --> 01:51:43,760 the show too so 3376 01:51:48,950 --> 01:51:46,159 i have three chats that go on live 3377 01:51:50,149 --> 01:51:48,960 during the show 3378 01:51:51,589 --> 01:51:50,159 i gotcha 3379 01:51:53,270 --> 01:51:51,599 uh really quick too just in case i got 3380 01:51:55,750 --> 01:51:53,280 it wrong uh john hudson said no we have 3381 01:51:57,830 --> 01:51:55,760 known uh the equation for 50 years what 3382 01:51:59,270 --> 01:51:57,840 was found is the 2000 okay now what i'd 3383 01:52:01,910 --> 01:51:59,280 be interested to know is if the writer 3384 01:52:03,109 --> 01:52:01,920 of the simpsons knew the exact equation 3385 01:52:05,109 --> 01:52:03,119 you know what i mean because granted 3386 01:52:06,870 --> 01:52:05,119 that information was known and it was 3387 01:52:09,430 --> 01:52:06,880 within that community for sure talked 3388 01:52:10,709 --> 01:52:09,440 about um but if you go back john uh just 3389 01:52:11,589 --> 01:52:10,719 did an episode one of the first episodes 3390 01:52:13,669 --> 01:52:11,599 i did for the gentleman here in the 3391 01:52:15,270 --> 01:52:13,679 garage and she covered some of this not 3392 01:52:17,189 --> 01:52:15,280 in relation to homer simpson but the 3393 01:52:19,589 --> 01:52:17,199 actual process of them bringing out i 3394 01:52:21,589 --> 01:52:19,599 know that it was discovered in the 70s 3395 01:52:24,149 --> 01:52:21,599 but the information necessarily wasn't 3396 01:52:26,709 --> 01:52:24,159 out there free floating for everyone um 3397 01:52:28,229 --> 01:52:26,719 so it would be very i mean still what 3398 01:52:29,430 --> 01:52:28,239 are the chances that he wrote the exact 3399 01:52:30,470 --> 01:52:29,440 equation 3400 01:52:32,149 --> 01:52:30,480 it's like 3401 01:52:33,990 --> 01:52:32,159 i mean it's obviously it happened i'm 3402 01:52:35,910 --> 01:52:34,000 not saying it's impossible it just it's 3403 01:52:38,310 --> 01:52:35,920 a little on the nose and that is one 3404 01:52:40,149 --> 01:52:38,320 that's just one john of of the like 30 3405 01:52:41,589 --> 01:52:40,159 plus that the simpsons have you guys can 3406 01:52:42,950 --> 01:52:41,599 just type it in just go on and type in 3407 01:52:46,550 --> 01:52:42,960 anything on youtube as like simpsons 3408 01:52:47,910 --> 01:52:46,560 predict the future yes exactly 3409 01:52:49,910 --> 01:52:47,920 totally did 3410 01:52:51,830 --> 01:52:49,920 so maybe there's like hints right there 3411 01:52:53,109 --> 01:52:51,840 like they wrote that because the higgs 3412 01:52:55,830 --> 01:52:53,119 boson 3413 01:52:57,910 --> 01:52:55,840 equation meant something so like 3414 01:53:00,950 --> 01:52:57,920 in their time travelly thing they have 3415 01:53:04,310 --> 01:53:00,960 to watch the simpsons to uh decode it 3416 01:53:05,990 --> 01:53:04,320 right yeah like 12 monkeys or something 3417 01:53:07,030 --> 01:53:06,000 it could be but i do appreciate you 3418 01:53:07,830 --> 01:53:07,040 checking that out for us now because 3419 01:53:09,510 --> 01:53:07,840 that's the thing too i always tell 3420 01:53:11,350 --> 01:53:09,520 people if i get something wrong hey i 3421 01:53:12,709 --> 01:53:11,360 will be the first to be like hey totally 3422 01:53:14,550 --> 01:53:12,719 got it wrong guys 3423 01:53:16,550 --> 01:53:14,560 um so i appreciate you guys staying on 3424 01:53:19,350 --> 01:53:16,560 top of it and and looking stuff up for 3425 01:53:20,550 --> 01:53:19,360 us on here i feel bad for uh ben when he 3426 01:53:22,070 --> 01:53:20,560 runs the show by himself and he doesn't 3427 01:53:26,629 --> 01:53:22,080 have joe there joe usually operates the 3428 01:53:30,070 --> 01:53:27,910 i give 3429 01:53:31,109 --> 01:53:30,080 uh dave's got and yourself a ton of 3430 01:53:32,790 --> 01:53:31,119 credit cause when you're trying to do 3431 01:53:33,990 --> 01:53:32,800 the show keep up with them and like 3432 01:53:35,430 --> 01:53:34,000 share this stuff i don't know how some 3433 01:53:37,350 --> 01:53:35,440 people do it 3434 01:53:39,750 --> 01:53:37,360 it's hard 3435 01:53:42,709 --> 01:53:39,760 i i miss things in the chat all the time 3436 01:53:44,629 --> 01:53:42,719 i miss good questions because the chat 3437 01:53:46,149 --> 01:53:44,639 it it moves it's like boom boom boom 3438 01:53:47,750 --> 01:53:46,159 boom boom and then you're like i missed 3439 01:53:50,709 --> 01:53:47,760 a question you're trying to zoom or 3440 01:53:53,109 --> 01:53:50,719 scroll up more questions come in but 3441 01:53:55,430 --> 01:53:53,119 i love having the interaction of the 3442 01:53:58,470 --> 01:53:55,440 live chat to go along with the show it 3443 01:54:01,189 --> 01:53:58,480 just it makes it so much more fun 3444 01:54:02,470 --> 01:54:01,199 yup and obviously no for like for being 3445 01:54:03,910 --> 01:54:02,480 someone who usually is hanging out in 3446 01:54:05,669 --> 01:54:03,920 the chat i feel like when you get to 3447 01:54:06,790 --> 01:54:05,679 interact with you the the guests and 3448 01:54:08,550 --> 01:54:06,800 then you get to interact with them it's 3449 01:54:09,830 --> 01:54:08,560 just i love 3450 01:54:11,109 --> 01:54:09,840 that's the one thing we might rip on 3451 01:54:13,189 --> 01:54:11,119 some of this technology and stuff that 3452 01:54:14,950 --> 01:54:13,199 exists nowadays but come on it's pretty 3453 01:54:16,870 --> 01:54:14,960 sweet come on we're living in a great 3454 01:54:19,189 --> 01:54:16,880 time in some sense 3455 01:54:21,430 --> 01:54:19,199 it is it's not all like 3456 01:54:23,669 --> 01:54:21,440 it's not all horrible you know it's fun 3457 01:54:25,589 --> 01:54:23,679 like come on guys you think 3458 01:54:27,669 --> 01:54:25,599 without all this technology we would not 3459 01:54:29,350 --> 01:54:27,679 be able to connect with like-minded 3460 01:54:33,589 --> 01:54:29,360 people and be able to have these 3461 01:54:35,270 --> 01:54:33,599 conversations you know we'd be like 3462 01:54:38,470 --> 01:54:35,280 not able to connect you know we'd be 3463 01:54:40,149 --> 01:54:38,480 what mailing people to a mailing list 3464 01:54:42,070 --> 01:54:40,159 like how would they do this before the 3465 01:54:44,709 --> 01:54:42,080 internet you know i don't even know i 3466 01:54:46,229 --> 01:54:44,719 don't think i don't think people cared 3467 01:54:47,910 --> 01:54:46,239 too much it sounds bad but i think 3468 01:54:49,350 --> 01:54:47,920 people have always cared but 3469 01:54:50,790 --> 01:54:49,360 you just weren't able to find your group 3470 01:54:52,390 --> 01:54:50,800 of people like let's let's take it back 3471 01:54:54,470 --> 01:54:52,400 and you could really even say the 80 3472 01:54:56,470 --> 01:54:54,480 right prior to the internet 3473 01:54:57,910 --> 01:54:56,480 being available for everybody 3474 01:54:59,830 --> 01:54:57,920 who you had to go find like a book club 3475 01:55:01,270 --> 01:54:59,840 or you had to find like a club to be in 3476 01:55:03,750 --> 01:55:01,280 your area you know what i mean you were 3477 01:55:05,270 --> 01:55:03,760 kind of limited by your your general 100 3478 01:55:06,629 --> 01:55:05,280 miles that you lived in kind of deal 3479 01:55:08,790 --> 01:55:06,639 yeah so i don't know how people used to 3480 01:55:10,870 --> 01:55:08,800 connect besides like the the the big 3481 01:55:12,470 --> 01:55:10,880 conferences and stuff like that now 3482 01:55:14,229 --> 01:55:12,480 we're like i'm just sitting in my home 3483 01:55:15,990 --> 01:55:14,239 like in my pajamas just listening to 3484 01:55:20,470 --> 01:55:16,000 dave scott or jimmy church or any of 3485 01:55:21,830 --> 01:55:20,480 these other guys or ben and joe you know 3486 01:55:23,270 --> 01:55:21,840 yeah i keep cutting you off with me so 3487 01:55:24,790 --> 01:55:23,280 sorry i feel like this is good there 3488 01:55:25,990 --> 01:55:24,800 must be some small delay kicking in or 3489 01:55:27,910 --> 01:55:26,000 something 3490 01:55:29,430 --> 01:55:27,920 a little bit i think sorry about that i 3491 01:55:31,270 --> 01:55:29,440 don't mean because i'm like am i hopping 3492 01:55:33,430 --> 01:55:31,280 in or no no no 3493 01:55:34,229 --> 01:55:33,440 no it's weird because you can interview 3494 01:55:37,510 --> 01:55:34,239 like 3495 01:55:41,030 --> 01:55:37,520 people on your computer you know it's 3496 01:55:43,350 --> 01:55:41,040 nuts and you can talk to anybody around 3497 01:55:45,510 --> 01:55:43,360 the world and you get a good video feed 3498 01:55:47,030 --> 01:55:45,520 i mean this was not possible before you 3499 01:55:49,109 --> 01:55:47,040 know 3500 01:55:51,270 --> 01:55:49,119 tammy's answering she says well we did 3501 01:55:52,950 --> 01:55:51,280 have the party lines 3502 01:55:54,629 --> 01:55:52,960 i've heard of these i heard they used to 3503 01:55:56,629 --> 01:55:54,639 actually be illegal i don't know if 3504 01:55:58,870 --> 01:55:56,639 that's true are they illegal 3505 01:56:00,870 --> 01:55:58,880 back in the day because wasn't it like 3506 01:56:02,149 --> 01:56:00,880 one person would pay you know have the 3507 01:56:04,070 --> 01:56:02,159 phone service 3508 01:56:05,510 --> 01:56:04,080 and then you could call and tie people 3509 01:56:06,950 --> 01:56:05,520 in even if they didn't have the 3510 01:56:08,390 --> 01:56:06,960 unlimited minutes and all that jazz i 3511 01:56:10,550 --> 01:56:08,400 could be wrong this is a little bit 3512 01:56:11,589 --> 01:56:10,560 before my time obviously but i think if 3513 01:56:13,830 --> 01:56:11,599 i'm not like 3514 01:56:15,830 --> 01:56:13,840 i saw it on i love lucy before i think 3515 01:56:16,790 --> 01:56:15,840 where they have a party line 3516 01:56:18,629 --> 01:56:16,800 but 3517 01:56:20,149 --> 01:56:18,639 like you pick it up and somebody else is 3518 01:56:22,550 --> 01:56:20,159 using it so i guess they kind of share 3519 01:56:23,830 --> 01:56:22,560 it right tammy says not those kinds well 3520 01:56:25,830 --> 01:56:23,840 then what kinds are you talking about 3521 01:56:27,109 --> 01:56:25,840 tim you gotta tammy one day i know we 3522 01:56:28,310 --> 01:56:27,119 gotta let jess go tonight but one day 3523 01:56:29,589 --> 01:56:28,320 you should get on here with us you 3524 01:56:30,629 --> 01:56:29,599 should come hang out go take a spin in 3525 01:56:31,990 --> 01:56:30,639 the van 3526 01:56:33,270 --> 01:56:32,000 as we're we're almost bringing her back 3527 01:56:34,950 --> 01:56:33,280 to park in the garage for the night here 3528 01:56:37,030 --> 01:56:34,960 uh but tammy did have one question i'll 3529 01:56:38,149 --> 01:56:37,040 ask you justin we'll get you out of here 3530 01:56:40,149 --> 01:56:38,159 uh she want to know if you've seen 3531 01:56:43,030 --> 01:56:40,159 looper i believe it was called looper i 3532 01:56:46,550 --> 01:56:43,040 have seen looper looper contains some 3533 01:56:47,990 --> 01:56:46,560 body horror if you like that i can not 3534 01:56:51,750 --> 01:56:48,000 handle 3535 01:56:54,709 --> 01:56:51,760 it's like i it's good very good concept 3536 01:56:56,550 --> 01:56:54,719 very great concept right but like 3537 01:57:01,030 --> 01:56:56,560 man 3538 01:57:04,070 --> 01:57:01,040 i have not seen that one i don't even 3539 01:57:05,030 --> 01:57:04,080 know that one like the guy 3540 01:57:06,870 --> 01:57:05,040 is 3541 01:57:08,229 --> 01:57:06,880 do you want me to ruin it for you 3542 01:57:09,270 --> 01:57:08,239 that'll ruin it 3543 01:57:11,430 --> 01:57:09,280 sure 3544 01:57:14,629 --> 01:57:11,440 ruin it you guys right now here's the 3545 01:57:17,109 --> 01:57:14,639 spoiler it's been long enough 3546 01:57:18,310 --> 01:57:17,119 but no like one dude right he 3547 01:57:20,229 --> 01:57:18,320 in the 3548 01:57:22,070 --> 01:57:20,239 i have seen this never mind yeah we're 3549 01:57:23,350 --> 01:57:22,080 in the past right and then they start 3550 01:57:25,350 --> 01:57:23,360 like 3551 01:57:27,350 --> 01:57:25,360 with bruce willis right yeah and they 3552 01:57:29,189 --> 01:57:27,360 start chopping the other dude like up 3553 01:57:31,589 --> 01:57:29,199 and like the past and like so in the 3554 01:57:33,430 --> 01:57:31,599 future he's like oh his hands are just 3555 01:57:35,910 --> 01:57:33,440 like his nose it's horrible it's 3556 01:57:39,189 --> 01:57:35,920 horrifying it's like disappears like leg 3557 01:57:40,790 --> 01:57:39,199 come you know it's like jeez man 3558 01:57:43,270 --> 01:57:40,800 horrifying 3559 01:57:45,270 --> 01:57:43,280 so but other than that great great it 3560 01:57:47,750 --> 01:57:45,280 was great concept 3561 01:57:48,790 --> 01:57:47,760 so stone uh hobbit welcome i don't think 3562 01:57:51,109 --> 01:57:48,800 i've ever seen the chat before so 3563 01:57:52,629 --> 01:57:51,119 welcome uh i said i was calling a friend 3564 01:57:54,149 --> 01:57:52,639 and i could hear other conversations and 3565 01:57:56,790 --> 01:57:54,159 oh my god it was the local bishop 3566 01:57:57,750 --> 01:57:56,800 talking bad and then that sunday i went 3567 01:57:59,510 --> 01:57:57,760 to church 3568 01:58:00,870 --> 01:57:59,520 so wait so like was it just and and 3569 01:58:02,790 --> 01:58:00,880 black dragon called me out on it too i 3570 01:58:04,629 --> 01:58:02,800 guess it wasn't illegal it was just was 3571 01:58:05,669 --> 01:58:04,639 it just like a big open line that you 3572 01:58:07,189 --> 01:58:05,679 could just hop on and you could just 3573 01:58:08,790 --> 01:58:07,199 hear other people and like try to sift 3574 01:58:09,750 --> 01:58:08,800 through the conversation 3575 01:58:11,430 --> 01:58:09,760 like 3576 01:58:13,589 --> 01:58:11,440 i don't know how it works i don't know 3577 01:58:15,189 --> 01:58:13,599 how this works now that movie now that 3578 01:58:17,430 --> 01:58:15,199 you brought it up what pissed me off 3579 01:58:19,830 --> 01:58:17,440 about that movie spoiler alert okay guys 3580 01:58:21,430 --> 01:58:19,840 big swords fine i think so there's like 3581 01:58:23,270 --> 01:58:21,440 i think it's been more than 10 years or 3582 01:58:26,709 --> 01:58:23,280 something i think we can talk about it 3583 01:58:28,709 --> 01:58:26,719 at this point how it ends okay pissed me 3584 01:58:30,470 --> 01:58:28,719 off because in that moment when he 3585 01:58:31,669 --> 01:58:30,480 recognizes oh this is never going to end 3586 01:58:34,070 --> 01:58:31,679 this is the vicious cycle that we'll 3587 01:58:36,229 --> 01:58:34,080 just continue right instead of like i 3588 01:58:38,629 --> 01:58:36,239 don't know blowing his hand off which 3589 01:58:40,470 --> 01:58:38,639 would affect his current older self he's 3590 01:58:42,550 --> 01:58:40,480 like you know what i'm done i'm just 3591 01:58:43,910 --> 01:58:42,560 going to end everything and i was like 3592 01:58:46,550 --> 01:58:43,920 why didn't you just shoot your own hand 3593 01:58:48,550 --> 01:58:46,560 off in that moment 3594 01:58:52,709 --> 01:58:48,560 i don't know 3595 01:58:54,229 --> 01:58:52,719 stone habit says no that her line was 3596 01:58:55,510 --> 01:58:54,239 just crossed didn't they say too that 3597 01:58:57,109 --> 01:58:55,520 used to be like the mice and the 3598 01:58:57,990 --> 01:58:57,119 squirrels would get in the boxes back 3599 01:58:59,350 --> 01:58:58,000 when they said 3600 01:59:00,790 --> 01:58:59,360 they would like cross stuff and they 3601 01:59:02,629 --> 01:59:00,800 would touch and that's how they were 3602 01:59:04,550 --> 01:59:02,639 that's how they were like hearing other 3603 01:59:06,629 --> 01:59:04,560 people's conversations 3604 01:59:08,629 --> 01:59:06,639 man i have no idea i've never is that 3605 01:59:10,709 --> 01:59:08,639 what mice do 3606 01:59:13,030 --> 01:59:10,719 mice are surveillance buddies 3607 01:59:14,470 --> 01:59:13,040 oh my god no i'm just like mice are like 3608 01:59:16,390 --> 01:59:14,480 inside of the 3609 01:59:19,430 --> 01:59:16,400 phone thing they're like what are you 3610 01:59:21,270 --> 01:59:19,440 here to check this out what was that 3611 01:59:22,390 --> 01:59:21,280 the the aristocrat not the aristocats 3612 01:59:25,030 --> 01:59:22,400 the remember the mice they were like 3613 01:59:26,790 --> 01:59:25,040 investigated yes the rest the rescuers 3614 01:59:31,910 --> 01:59:26,800 right thank you that's it that's totally 3615 01:59:36,709 --> 01:59:34,950 surveillance mice that's right 3616 01:59:38,470 --> 01:59:36,719 oh man well jess i want to thank you 3617 01:59:40,310 --> 01:59:38,480 very much for coming on and hanging out 3618 01:59:42,070 --> 01:59:40,320 let's park the van back in the garage 3619 01:59:43,350 --> 01:59:42,080 let you get out of here and like i said 3620 01:59:44,709 --> 01:59:43,360 next week guys we'll have christina 3621 01:59:46,229 --> 01:59:44,719 gomez in here 3622 01:59:47,669 --> 01:59:46,239 and we'll we'll be hanging out with her 3623 01:59:49,030 --> 01:59:47,679 and chit chatting so 3624 01:59:50,550 --> 01:59:49,040 just one last time obviously i got your 3625 01:59:51,589 --> 01:59:50,560 information in there but where can we 3626 01:59:53,270 --> 01:59:51,599 find you 3627 01:59:54,550 --> 01:59:53,280 and anything you want to add before we 3628 01:59:56,830 --> 01:59:54,560 let you go 3629 01:59:59,030 --> 01:59:56,840 you can find me at 3630 02:00:02,629 --> 01:59:59,040 therogyreport.com my show is live 3631 02:00:05,030 --> 02:00:02,639 wednesdays at 6 p.m pacific 9 pm eastern 3632 02:00:06,350 --> 02:00:05,040 on fringe dot fm 3633 02:00:08,550 --> 02:00:06,360 if you head over to 3634 02:00:11,910 --> 02:00:08,560 therogyreport.com you can you know find 3635 02:00:14,950 --> 02:00:11,920 links to the show and to my social media 3636 02:00:17,030 --> 02:00:14,960 um i do have tommy chong coming up real 3637 02:00:18,390 --> 02:00:17,040 soon and i also have david ike coming up 3638 02:00:21,589 --> 02:00:18,400 real soon so those are going to be 3639 02:00:23,750 --> 02:00:21,599 really exciting show guys big guests 3640 02:00:25,830 --> 02:00:23,760 so follow me on social media the rogue 3641 02:00:28,310 --> 02:00:25,840 report and i want to thank you big willy 3642 02:00:30,629 --> 02:00:28,320 this was a great fun conversation 3643 02:00:31,669 --> 02:00:30,639 it was a great way to spend a saturday 3644 02:00:33,270 --> 02:00:31,679 evening 3645 02:00:35,109 --> 02:00:33,280 oh heck yeah thank you for coming and 3646 02:00:37,430 --> 02:00:35,119 hanging out and uh anytime you ever want 3647 02:00:38,950 --> 02:00:37,440 to come back and and you know do cross 3648 02:00:41,109 --> 02:00:38,960 episode or anything like that yeah we 3649 02:00:42,790 --> 02:00:41,119 gotta we gotta more than willing to you 3650 02:00:44,149 --> 02:00:42,800 just blew ben's mind he wasn't in here 3651 02:00:45,830 --> 02:00:44,159 when you said that earlier i don't think 3652 02:00:47,270 --> 02:00:45,840 you understand i mean people kind of say 3653 02:00:48,709 --> 02:00:47,280 ben and joe is the chichen chang of the 3654 02:00:50,149 --> 02:00:48,719 ufo community i don't know if they take 3655 02:00:53,109 --> 02:00:50,159 offense to that or not i don't know i 3656 02:00:54,950 --> 02:00:53,119 feel like they're owning it but uh they 3657 02:00:56,550 --> 02:00:54,960 are uh they're kind of known for that i 3658 02:00:58,390 --> 02:00:56,560 feel like joe would love having a 3659 02:00:59,750 --> 02:00:58,400 conversation with them so everyone's 3660 02:01:02,470 --> 02:00:59,760 telling you thank you jess so much for 3661 02:01:04,310 --> 02:01:02,480 coming thank you so much thank you ben 3662 02:01:06,070 --> 02:01:04,320 thank you big willy thank you everybody 3663 02:01:08,550 --> 02:01:06,080 in the chat who had a wonderful time and 3664 02:01:10,470 --> 02:01:08,560 yeah no we gotta get in touch and we'll 3665 02:01:11,669 --> 02:01:10,480 do some sort of crossover show i think 3666 02:01:14,070 --> 02:01:11,679 that'll be fun 3667 02:01:15,750 --> 02:01:14,080 for sure you got my information so have 3668 02:01:17,669 --> 02:01:15,760 a good one jess i will talk to you later 3669 02:01:18,870 --> 02:01:17,679 okay talk to you soon thank you have a 3670 02:01:20,830 --> 02:01:18,880 great evening 3671 02:01:23,430 --> 02:01:20,840 you too 3672 02:01:25,109 --> 02:01:23,440 bye alrighty guys 3673 02:01:26,629 --> 02:01:25,119 i want to thank each and every one of 3674 02:01:29,589 --> 02:01:26,639 you for coming in and hanging out with 3675 02:01:32,310 --> 02:01:29,599 me tonight as we took a trip in the van 3676 02:01:33,189 --> 02:01:32,320 to talk about ufos aliens and all things 3677 02:01:34,550 --> 02:01:33,199 weird tonight a little more 3678 02:01:35,910 --> 02:01:34,560 conspiratorial 3679 02:01:37,830 --> 02:01:35,920 but i want to thank you for coming in 3680 02:01:40,310 --> 02:01:37,840 and doing that i want to mention one 3681 02:01:41,350 --> 02:01:40,320 last time guys one last time if we could 3682 02:01:43,430 --> 02:01:41,360 i know i let you know in the very 3683 02:01:45,109 --> 02:01:43,440 beginning but it's important to talk 3684 02:01:47,750 --> 02:01:45,119 about this 3685 02:01:48,950 --> 02:01:47,760 manscaped guys look at this cleared for 3686 02:01:50,870 --> 02:01:48,960 takeoff 3687 02:01:52,950 --> 02:01:50,880 ben this is so great your balls will 3688 02:01:54,070 --> 02:01:52,960 thank you and i want to say too if 3689 02:01:56,149 --> 02:01:54,080 anybody wants to know what the promo 3690 02:02:00,149 --> 02:01:56,159 code for that is all you have to do is 3691 02:02:03,350 --> 02:02:00,159 type in ufo garage all capitalized and 3692 02:02:05,910 --> 02:02:03,360 you will get 20 off of all 3693 02:02:08,470 --> 02:02:05,920 all your total uh your purchase i 3694 02:02:09,430 --> 02:02:08,480 believe i i could be wrong if it is ben 3695 02:02:11,109 --> 02:02:09,440 let me know 3696 02:02:13,270 --> 02:02:11,119 so guys treat your family jewels like 3697 02:02:15,669 --> 02:02:13,280 the jewels they are 3698 02:02:17,270 --> 02:02:15,679 get manscaped don't play around bring 3699 02:02:19,990 --> 02:02:17,280 precision to the game 3700 02:02:22,550 --> 02:02:20,000 because your balls will thank you once 3701 02:02:25,430 --> 02:02:22,560 again that's ufo garage all capitalized 3702 02:02:27,910 --> 02:02:25,440 type it in let us know what happens 3703 02:02:29,669 --> 02:02:27,920 we're excited and maybe one day maybe 3704 02:02:30,950 --> 02:02:29,679 one day i think there'll be a kickback 3705 02:02:32,790 --> 02:02:30,960 one day i think it's going to pay off 3706 02:02:34,149 --> 02:02:32,800 for you ben all right guys i'm gonna 3707 02:02:35,270 --> 02:02:34,159 punch in some music here if you guys 3708 02:02:36,149 --> 02:02:35,280 want to just throw up some stuff in the 3709 02:02:37,589 --> 02:02:36,159 chat 3710 02:02:39,589 --> 02:02:37,599 i've never tried this before so it goes 3711 02:02:42,149 --> 02:02:39,599 incredibly wrong hey you'll be here to 3712 02:02:43,270 --> 02:02:42,159 witness it uh so let's try this out i 3713 02:02:44,629 --> 02:02:43,280 want to thank each and every one of you 3714 02:02:49,189 --> 02:02:44,639 for coming in 3715 02:02:54,570 --> 02:02:49,199 and as always please stay curious